The Bristol music scene is monopolised by too few

[Trew York]

Is it that guy Bill Posters?  Lots of signs that say No Bill Posters, which IMO is a very personal vendetta

[able]

Danny Feedback? He's lording it up in Thailand at the moment. He wants to be careful or he'll lose his stranglehold on the Bristol scene.

[Sodapop]

Danny Feedback? He's lording it up in Thailand at the moment. He wants to be careful or he'll lose his stranglehold on the Bristol scene.

Thats him

[Cabalist]

I don't think it's Danny Feedback he's on about.

[able]

I don't think it's Danny Feedback he's on about.

Me neither.

[Sell_By_Dave]

Elaborate please.

Bad idea, trust me. Don't listen to him OP!

Bristol's small enough as it is without needlessly making enemies of the big boys/pissing them off, especially if you're a DJ 

[Sell_By_Dave]

edit/ serious note though. Bristol needs a good 200 - 500 cap club. the closure of level, tube & native massively closed this hole. however, there loads of great new nights coming through. some examples, shapes & piff

This.

My main beef is with the lack of venues of medium size where you can put on decent nights that you can build on. I also just love raving in smaller clubs a lot of the time atmosphere wise. Native, Level and Tube were and remain my favourite Bristol clubs.

Also clubs that appeal to a wider demographic and a lot of the clubs are absolute shit holes as well which isn't nice.

I'd agree with this. I'd say a lack of good quality small to mid sized club venues with great soundsystems is more of a problem than promotional cartels or whatever the original poster was moaning about.

[alex fata]

edit/ serious note though. Bristol needs a good 200 - 500 cap club. the closure of level, tube & native massively closed this hole. however, there loads of great new nights coming through. some examples, shapes & piff

This.

My main beef is with the lack of venues of medium size where you can put on decent nights that you can build on. I also just love raving in smaller clubs a lot of the time atmosphere wise. Native, Level and Tube were and remain my favourite Bristol clubs.

Also clubs that appeal to a wider demographic and a lot of the clubs are absolute shit holes as well which isn't nice.

I'd agree with this. I'd say a lack of good quality small to mid sized club venues with great soundsystems is more of a problem than promotional cartels or whatever the original poster was moaning about.

Loads of people seem to be agreeing with this...whats wrong with T2 and B45, other than just being letters and numbers...
im sure there's more other good little places although they aren't coming to me at the mo.

They've put loads of effort into T2 recently and really improved it, and i hear there's more changes to come that sound pretty awesome. I know a lot of nights seem to struggle to get the numbers in at b45 but i don't know why, i think its a nice club, but nights there rarely have a good atmosphere...

[Sell_By_Dave]

edit/ serious note though. Bristol needs a good 200 - 500 cap club. the closure of level, tube & native massively closed this hole. however, there loads of great new nights coming through. some examples, shapes & piff

This.

My main beef is with the lack of venues of medium size where you can put on decent nights that you can build on. I also just love raving in smaller clubs a lot of the time atmosphere wise. Native, Level and Tube were and remain my favourite Bristol clubs.

Also clubs that appeal to a wider demographic and a lot of the clubs are absolute shit holes as well which isn't nice.

I'd agree with this. I'd say a lack of good quality small to mid sized club venues with great soundsystems is more of a problem than promotional cartels or whatever the original poster was moaning about.

Loads of people seem to be agreeing with this...whats wrong with T2 and B45, other than just being letters and numbers...
im sure there's more other good little places although they aren't coming to me at the mo.

They've put loads of effort into T2 recently and really improved it, and i hear there's more changes to come that sound pretty awesome. I know a lot of nights seem to struggle to get the numbers in at b45 but i don't know why, i think its a nice club, but nights there rarely have a good atmosphere...

T2 is fine and Marco and Jamie have improved it loads, but personally I still find the layout a bit unruly. Just a personal thing.

B45 is fine if you just use the one room, but the second room is dreadful.

Both are hard to get sounding good, though.

I also still think there's room for a 250-300 single room venue, Plastic People style, with an awesome soundsystem.

[Bill Price]

edit/ serious note though. Bristol needs a good 200 - 500 cap club. the closure of level, tube & native massively closed this hole. however, there loads of great new nights coming through. some examples, shapes & piff

This.

My main beef is with the lack of venues of medium size where you can put on decent nights that you can build on. I also just love raving in smaller clubs a lot of the time atmosphere wise. Native, Level and Tube were and remain my favourite Bristol clubs.

Also clubs that appeal to a wider demographic and a lot of the clubs are absolute shit holes as well which isn't nice.

I'd agree with this. I'd say a lack of good quality small to mid sized club venues with great soundsystems is more of a problem than promotional cartels or whatever the original poster was moaning about.

Loads of people seem to be agreeing with this...whats wrong with T2 and B45, other than just being letters and numbers...
im sure there's more other good little places although they aren't coming to me at the mo.

They've put loads of effort into T2 recently and really improved it, and i hear there's more changes to come that sound pretty awesome. I know a lot of nights seem to struggle to get the numbers in at b45 but i don't know why, i think its a nice club, but nights there rarely have a good atmosphere...

Plastic People

What a club that place is/was.

I remember going there for a dubstep night years and years ago and it was fucking mint.

[baxter]

edit/ serious note though. Bristol needs a good 200 - 500 cap club. the closure of level, tube & native massively closed this hole. however, there loads of great new nights coming through. some examples, shapes & piff

This.

My main beef is with the lack of venues of medium size where you can put on decent nights that you can build on. I also just love raving in smaller clubs a lot of the time atmosphere wise. Native, Level and Tube were and remain my favourite Bristol clubs.

Also clubs that appeal to a wider demographic and a lot of the clubs are absolute shit holes as well which isn't nice.

I'd agree with this. I'd say a lack of good quality small to mid sized club venues with great soundsystems is more of a problem than promotional cartels or whatever the original poster was moaning about.

Loads of people seem to be agreeing with this...whats wrong with T2 and B45, other than just being letters and numbers...
im sure there's more other good little places although they aren't coming to me at the mo.

They've put loads of effort into T2 recently and really improved it, and i hear there's more changes to come that sound pretty awesome. I know a lot of nights seem to struggle to get the numbers in at b45 but i don't know why, i think its a nice club, but nights there rarely have a good atmosphere...

Plastic People

What a club that place is/was.

I remember going there for a dubstep night years and years ago and it was fucking mint.

That's a bit shite now since the redo as well...

[whalemonste®]

Names of GTFO

Appropriately George Osborne's initials.

+1

[top cat]

damn all these promoters and their incessant promoting that spoils my own incessant promoting

[daggs]

edit/ serious note though. Bristol needs a good 200 - 500 cap club. the closure of level, tube & native massively closed this hole. however, there loads of great new nights coming through. some examples, shapes & piff

This.

My main beef is with the lack of venues of medium size where you can put on decent nights that you can build on. I also just love raving in smaller clubs a lot of the time atmosphere wise. Native, Level and Tube were and remain my favourite Bristol clubs.

Also clubs that appeal to a wider demographic and a lot of the clubs are absolute shit holes as well which isn't nice.

I'd agree with this. I'd say a lack of good quality small to mid sized club venues with great soundsystems is more of a problem than promotional cartels or whatever the original poster was moaning about.

Loads of people seem to be agreeing with this...whats wrong with T2 and B45, other than just being letters and numbers...
im sure there's more other good little places although they aren't coming to me at the mo.

They've put loads of effort into T2 recently and really improved it, and i hear there's more changes to come that sound pretty awesome. I know a lot of nights seem to struggle to get the numbers in at b45 but i don't know why, i think its a nice club, but nights there rarely have a good atmosphere...

T2 is fine and Marco and Jamie have improved it loads, but personally I still find the layout a bit unruly. Just a personal thing.

B45 is fine if you just use the one room, but the second room is dreadful.

Both are hard to get sounding good, though.

I also still think there's room for a 250-300 single room venue, Plastic People style, with an awesome soundsystem.

No one is mentioning The Croft, not too bad a venue with a 225 capacity

[SmokelifeSundaySessions]

damn all these promoters and their incessant promoting that spoils my own incessant promoting

[steve rice]

edit/ serious note though. Bristol needs a good 200 - 500 cap club. the closure of level, tube & native massively closed this hole. however, there loads of great new nights coming through. some examples, shapes & piff

This.

My main beef is with the lack of venues of medium size where you can put on decent nights that you can build on. I also just love raving in smaller clubs a lot of the time atmosphere wise. Native, Level and Tube were and remain my favourite Bristol clubs.

Also clubs that appeal to a wider demographic and a lot of the clubs are absolute shit holes as well which isn't nice.

I'd agree with this. I'd say a lack of good quality small to mid sized club venues with great soundsystems is more of a problem than promotional cartels or whatever the original poster was moaning about.

Loads of people seem to be agreeing with this...whats wrong with T2 and B45, other than just being letters and numbers...
im sure there's more other good little places although they aren't coming to me at the mo.

They've put loads of effort into T2 recently and really improved it, and i hear there's more changes to come that sound pretty awesome. I know a lot of nights seem to struggle to get the numbers in at b45 but i don't know why, i think its a nice club, but nights there rarely have a good atmosphere...

T2 is fine and Marco and Jamie have improved it loads, but personally I still find the layout a bit unruly. Just a personal thing.

B45 is fine if you just use the one room, but the second room is dreadful.

Both are hard to get sounding good, though.

I also still think there's room for a 250-300 single room venue, Plastic People style, with an awesome soundsystem.

No one is mentioning The Croft, not too bad a venue with a 225 capacity

But split into three quite small rooms

[simba]

If only Clockwork was still standing, eh?  

Come on man, don't dredge up the past. Hijack knows it fucked up on that one, and we all cry ourselves to sleep at night knowing that it was Hijack that ruined Christmas for everyone.

How did Hijack close clockwork? I don't remember that thread.

[nevermind]

How convenient.

[Cabalist]

If only Clockwork was still standing, eh? 

Come on man, don't dredge up the past. Hijack knows it fucked up on that one, and we all cry ourselves to sleep at night knowing that it was Hijack that ruined Christmas for everyone.

How did Hijack close clockwork? I don't remember that thread.

http://www.hijackbristol.co.uk/board/the-forum/clockwork-getting-flatened/

[simba]

If only Clockwork was still standing, eh? 

Come on man, don't dredge up the past. Hijack knows it fucked up on that one, and we all cry ourselves to sleep at night knowing that it was Hijack that ruined Christmas for everyone.

How did Hijack close clockwork? I don't remember that thread.

http://www.hijackbristol.co.uk/board/the-forum/clockwork-getting-flatened/

Oh that thread. I thought it was actually Hijacked fault it closed. Silly me for taking Hijack serious for a second.

-1 internet point for me.

[saughster]

So the established nights dominate, strangling creativity and stopping the small guy from flourishing? Sound familiar? It's got the makings of another Tesco / Costa thread. And we all know the correct course of action here don't we? Protest! Honk if you agree! Flex your bongos! 90% of Bristolians don't want STB! Failing that, Facebook petition, standard.

[Piss & Vinegar]

Bristol needs a good 200 - 500 cap club.

Closer to 200.

 

[Pete Kirk]

Yeah, Shit The Bed is such a shit party, everyone I've ever spoken to about it hates it and doesn't understand why it's so massively popular all across the country, even with the militant way they deal with promotion and press.

Those guys work so hard to stifle the scene and Bristol creativity it's a miracle it's still going. Maybe they have sold soul their souls to the big bad dance music devil in the sky?

Good comparison with Tescos / Costa : whenever I think of Shit The Bed I just see a Tesco's logo anyway. Someone told me the other day that on of the promoters was getting a Costa Coffee logo tattooed on his arse as a sign of solidarity over business practices re: Gloucester Road and Clifton stores and all that.

Definitely needs a Bristol / Hijack Fatwa etc.

[The_Daddy]

Names of GTFO

Appropriately George Osborne's initials.

I googled George Osborne's full name desperately wanting that to be true. Bastard.

[Papa B]

If you're going to book the same artists as every single other large night then maybe you need to think about a different angle on the night??

[Dub boy]

Yeah, Shit The Bed is such a shit party, everyone I've ever spoken to about it hates it and doesn't understand why it's so massively popular all across the country, even with the militant way they deal with promotion and press.

Those guys work so hard to stifle the scene and Bristol creativity it's a miracle it's still going. Maybe they have sold soul their souls to the big bad dance music devil in the sky?

Good comparison with Tescos / Costa : whenever I think of Shit The Bed I just see a Tesco's logo anyway. Someone told me the other day that on of the promoters was getting a Costa Coffee logo tattooed on his arse as a sign of solidarity over business practices re: Gloucester Road and Clifton stores and all that.

Definitely needs a Bristol / Hijack Fatwa etc.

What a load of nonsense.

[Dub boy]

If you're going to book the same artists as every single other large night then maybe you need to think about a different angle on the night??

Real talk. Try and be original........ it's not that hard if you put your mind to it 

[nevermind]

Yeah, Shit The Bed is such a shit party, everyone I've ever spoken to about it hates it and doesn't understand why it's so massively popular all across the country, even with the militant way they deal with promotion and press.

Those guys work so hard to stifle the scene and Bristol creativity it's a miracle it's still going. Maybe they have sold soul their souls to the big bad dance music devil in the sky?

Good comparison with Tescos / Costa : whenever I think of Shit The Bed I just see a Tesco's logo anyway. Someone told me the other day that on of the promoters was getting a Costa Coffee logo tattooed on his arse as a sign of solidarity over business practices re: Gloucester Road and Clifton stores and all that.

Definitely needs a Bristol / Hijack Fatwa etc.

What a load of nonsense.

Well yes, I think that's rather the point.

[Pete Kirk]

[FIRE MAN SAM]

Yeah, Shit The Bed is such a shit party, everyone I've ever spoken to about it hates it and doesn't understand why it's so massively popular all across the country, even with the militant way they deal with promotion and press.

Those guys work so hard to stifle the scene and Bristol creativity it's a miracle it's still going. Maybe they have sold soul their souls to the big bad dance music devil in the sky?

Good comparison with Tescos / Costa : whenever I think of Shit The Bed I just see a Tesco's logo anyway. Someone told me the other day that on of the promoters was getting a Costa Coffee logo tattooed on his arse as a sign of solidarity over business practices re: Gloucester Road and Clifton stores and all that.

Definitely needs a Bristol / Hijack Fatwa etc.

What a load of nonsense.

Well yes, I think that's rather the point.

Yeah I assumed this was sarcasm either that or completely mental.

[dave_kirik]

dojo 

 

[Kirkio]

Yeah, Shit The Bed is such a shit party, everyone I've ever spoken to about it hates it and doesn't understand why it's so massively popular all across the country, even with the militant way they deal with promotion and press.

Those guys work so hard to stifle the scene and Bristol creativity it's a miracle it's still going. Maybe they have sold soul their souls to the big bad dance music devil in the sky?

Good comparison with Tescos / Costa : whenever I think of Shit The Bed I just see a Tesco's logo anyway. Someone told me the other day that on of the promoters was getting a Costa Coffee logo tattooed on his arse as a sign of solidarity over business practices re: Gloucester Road and Clifton stores and all that.

Definitely needs a Bristol / Hijack Fatwa etc.

What a load of nonsense.

Well yes, I think that's rather the point.

Yeah I assumed this was sarcasm either that or completely mental.

With Pete its normally a heady cocktail of both. 

[Sell_By_Dave]

To be honest, being a full-time promoter is very hard work and requires a certain type of person - someone with good business sense, who knows how to pick the right bookings, create a good party atmosphere and, most importantly, work their proverbial knackers off to get people through the door. I know I couldn't do it, and I have a lot of admiration for those that do and make it a success. Whether you like the music played at Shit The Bed, Just Jack, Futureboogie, Crazylegs etc nights, those events are well regarded all over the UK, and in some cases internationally. That can only be a good thing for the Bristol scene at large.

We could all pick tiny things we don't like about certain nights, but these are really minor points. The events themselves are well run, have line-ups that attract the key demographics (i.e students, young people generally, party heads etc) and are always rammo. That's not a bad thing.

There are also quite a few exciting smaller events around catering for different crowds/different underground tastes - look at Dirtytalk, say, or Tape Echo/Peng Sound, or the dub soundsystem things at Trinity whose name escapes me.

The scene in Bristol is arguably stronger than it's ever been. Quit whining. If you think there's a gap in the market or there's an audience for a certain style of night or music that's not being adequately catered for, do it yourself - start small and go from there.

It's all good 

[sven]

I must say I think the success of the big nights, In:Motion and Motion in general has made things tougher for smaller promoters at other venues simply because such a huge percentage of people who go out clubbing end up at Motion. Obviously this is due to good work from the people behind the club and the events and you can’t bitch about people doing a good job. I’ve got nothing but respect for the people who have made them a success, even if the line ups don’t always do it for me. It’s always been hard work to make a night work and it does seem to have got even harder. Personally, since taking a break from Mongrel to work on some other things, I’ve discovered I’ve suddenly got enough money for things like holidays!

[Sell_By_Dave]

I must say I think the success of the big nights, In:Motion and Motion in general has made things tougher for smaller promoters at other venues simply because such a huge percentage of people who go out clubbing end up at Motion. Obviously this is due to good work from the people behind the club and the events and you can’t bitch about people doing a good job. I’ve got nothing but respect for the people who have made them a success, even if the line ups don’t always do it for me. It’s always been hard work to make a night work and it does seem to have got even harder. Personally, since taking a break from Mongrel to work on some other things, I’ve discovered I’ve suddenly got enough money for things like holidays!

Aint that the truth. It actually scares me how much money I spent on promotion for years. We never made huge profits or losses, but if you add it all up it would be a loss overall I guess.

Was fun while it lasted. Now I'd much rather play music and make music. My bank balance is certainly healthier (marginally!)

[sven]

I must say I think the success of the big nights, In:Motion and Motion in general has made things tougher for smaller promoters at other venues simply because such a huge percentage of people who go out clubbing end up at Motion. Obviously this is due to good work from the people behind the club and the events and you can’t bitch about people doing a good job. I’ve got nothing but respect for the people who have made them a success, even if the line ups don’t always do it for me. It’s always been hard work to make a night work and it does seem to have got even harder. Personally, since taking a break from Mongrel to work on some other things, I’ve discovered I’ve suddenly got enough money for things like holidays!

Aint that the truth. It actually scares me how much money I spent on promotion for years. We never made huge profits or losses, but if you add it all up it would be a loss overall I guess.

Was fun while it lasted. Now I'd much rather play music and make music. My bank balance is certainly healthier (marginally!)

Fun but sometimes started to seem like a lot of hard work for the reward. I was doing alright but only takes a couple of disasters (Swan getting closed down a week before NYE!) or a randomly badly attended event and it really hurts. All very well to do it for the love but it's hard to stay positive when you lose a grand in a go. ...

I'm sure I'll do another night at some point but I must say its been nice to work on something which actually makes some pennies for a change and do without the stress for a while.

[MUMSTHEWORD]

We're giving it a crack... Brand new night in Bristol - MUMSTHEWORD 13.4.12 Basement 45 https://www.facebook.com/events/334165509952213/

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MUMS-THE-WORD is kicking off with a HUGE night. Providing you with some of the finest DnB and Dubstep spread across two rooms. With sound from the Honeybee Sound system.

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!!THE LINE UP!!

Room One:

STATE OF MIND (SOM Music/ CIA/ BSE RECORDINGS/ Subtitles)
http://www.myspace.com/stateofmindnz
http://www.facebook.com/stateofmindnz

TECHNICOLOUR (Spearhead/SGN:LTD/Technique Recs)
http://www.myspace.com/technicolourism
http://soundcloud.com/technicolour

MOB TACTICS (Traffic/ Tactical Recs)
http://soundcloud.com/mob-tactics

Jacky P (Foundation)
http://soundcloud.com/jackyp

CRL
http://soundcloud.com/djcrl

Noise Complaint
http://soundcloud.com/noise-complaint-1

Hosted by MC's Andlar and Remidy

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Room Two:

PULSAR (Gutterfunk/The Deep End/ Fent Plates)

www.myspace.com/pulsardubstep
www.facebook.com/pulsarmusic

MasterStatus
http://soundcloud.com/masterstatus

D-Lux
http://soundcloud.com/d-lux-uk

Major Zero
http://www.mixcloud.com/MajorZero/

Muttley
http://soundcloud.com/muttleyuk

Nakes
http://soundcloud.com/lordnelsgwarn

Akilles
http://www.facebook.com/pages/AKILLES/55824340355

Ramos
http://soundcloud.com/dj-ramos

Hosted by MC Jman + Gravity



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10PM-4AM

£6 early bird tickets / £8 advance / MOTD

Tickets available from Bristol Ticket Shop

http://www.bristolticketshop.co.uk/

OR

Phone Jon: 07553 373830
Ben: 07514 562864

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THE ARTISTS

STATE OF MIND
Hailing from Auckland, New Zealand, State of Mind are the duo of Stu Maxwell and Patrick Hawkins. Beginning their careers in 2004 SOM have become notoriously prolific producers with releases on a broad spectrum of labels throughout the dnb scene. Material can be found on the shelves via Total Science's CIA Recordings, Teebee's Subtitles Records, Friction's Shogun Audio, Futurebound’s Viper label, Doc Scott’s 31 Records, Concord Dawn’s Uprising imprint, Bad Company, BSE & Obsessions, and more. They released their first full CD ‘Take Control’ on Uprising Records in 2006, an album that garnered them the publicly voted award of ‘Breakthrough Artists of the year’ on the B-Net radio network in NZ, and a nomination for a prestigious NZ Music Award. In March 2009 they released their second LP, 'Faster than Light' on their own label SOM Music. To date SOM Music has released artists such as Black Sun Empire, Axiom, Chris Su, Mindscape, Dose and more. Their third album called Nil By Ear was globally released in April 2011, peaking at number 5 in the NZ Charts. This momentum has continued throughout 2011 with a series of cutting edge 12's and remixes on the likes of SOM, EMI, Project 51, Subsonik Recordings, Eat Brain, BSE and more. State Of Mind are also the former hosts of the hugely popular international ‘Next Level” 95BFM drum n bass show. The show has now been relaunched in monthly podcast format due to popular demand.

TECHNICOLOUR
Technicolour and his usual partner in crime Komatic are one of the most exciting new duos operating at the musical end of the drum & bass spectrum. Rogers announced his arrival in d&b with a debut 12" on Ennex Records in 2007, and has subsequently seen music released on Technique Recordings, Worldwide Audio and Critical Music. Powell has built up a formidable reputation within the scene through his hugely successful Bassdrive radio show, and releases on Spearhead Digital, Frequency Factory and Digiphunk.
Hooking up through an affiliation with the Drum & Bass Arena message board, their first tracks together, 'Preacher' and 'Innervision' were immediately snapped up by Worldwide Audio, who duly released them in April of 2009. With wide-ranging DJ support from the likes of Fabio & Grooverider, High Contrast, Logistics and Blame, and more music forthcoming on Technique Recordings and Bassdrive Digital, it's clear this duo are becoming very hot property indeed.

PULSAR
Exeter local has smashed up the dubstep scene lately with some big releases such as 'Bumberclart' with Dj First Aid released on Dj Die's Gutterfunk label. Also featuring on the Ministry of Sound's Dubstep compilation. Watch out for Pulsar he's making moves this year!

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[Iainsignal]

I must say I think the success of the big nights, In:Motion and Motion in general has made things tougher for smaller promoters at other venues simply because such a huge percentage of people who go out clubbing end up at Motion. Obviously this is due to good work from the people behind the club and the events and you can’t bitch about people doing a good job. I’ve got nothing but respect for the people who have made them a success, even if the line ups don’t always do it for me. It’s always been hard work to make a night work and it does seem to have got even harder. Personally, since taking a break from Mongrel to work on some other things, I’ve discovered I’ve suddenly got enough money for things like holidays!

Things were still tough way before Motion came along. Before Motion it was academy, before Academy it was Lakota etc...

Essentially unless people are die-hard fans of a genre / dj / act etc.. they are much more likely to spend the extra few quid to go to a big event, with a bigger line up, better system and more girls / boys to look at and dance with. You can blame other promoters but the fact is that smaller nights have less appeal to a mass audience than big blockbusters 

[steve rice]

I must say I think the success of the big nights, In:Motion and Motion in general has made things tougher for smaller promoters at other venues simply because such a huge percentage of people who go out clubbing end up at Motion. Obviously this is due to good work from the people behind the club and the events and you can’t bitch about people doing a good job. I’ve got nothing but respect for the people who have made them a success, even if the line ups don’t always do it for me. It’s always been hard work to make a night work and it does seem to have got even harder. Personally, since taking a break from Mongrel to work on some other things, I’ve discovered I’ve suddenly got enough money for things like holidays!

Aint that the truth. It actually scares me how much money I spent on promotion for years. We never made huge profits or losses, but if you add it all up it would be a loss overall I guess.

Was fun while it lasted. Now I'd much rather play music and make music. My bank balance is certainly healthier (marginally!)

I could have taken my family to Jamaica for a fortnight on what i lost in one year promoting reggae

[sven]

Things were still tough way before Motion came along. Before Motion it was academy, before Academy it was Lakota etc...

Essentially unless people are die-hard fans of a genre / dj / act etc.. they are much more likely to spend the extra few quid to go to a big event, with a bigger line up, better system and more girls / boys to look at and dance with. You can blame other promoters but the fact is that smaller nights have less appeal to a mass audience than big blockbusters

Like I say, I'm not blaming any other promoters, nor am I saying its any mystery why people go to bigger, more mainstream events, just putting in me 2ps worth as a strugglin (possibly ex) promoter.

I could have taken my family to Jamaica for a fortnight on what i lost in one year promoting reggae

...and its at that point you star questioning just how much you wanna carry on 'for the love of it''

[Iainsignal]

Things were still tough way before Motion came along. Before Motion it was academy, before Academy it was Lakota etc...

Essentially unless people are die-hard fans of a genre / dj / act etc.. they are much more likely to spend the extra few quid to go to a big event, with a bigger line up, better system and more girls / boys to look at and dance with. You can blame other promoters but the fact is that smaller nights have less appeal to a mass audience than big blockbusters

Like I say, I'm not blaming any other promoters, nor am I saying its any mystery why people go to bigger, more mainstream events, just putting in me 2ps worth as a strugglin (possibly ex) promoter.

I could have taken my family to Jamaica for a fortnight on what i lost in one year promoting reggae

...and its at that point you star questioning just how much you wanna carry on 'for the love of it''

I know dude it was more directed at the OP

I dont want to think how much I lost doing Signal.

[Dub boy]

Yeah, Shit The Bed is such a shit party, everyone I've ever spoken to about it hates it and doesn't understand why it's so massively popular all across the country, even with the militant way they deal with promotion and press.

Those guys work so hard to stifle the scene and Bristol creativity it's a miracle it's still going. Maybe they have sold soul their souls to the big bad dance music devil in the sky?

Good comparison with Tescos / Costa : whenever I think of Shit The Bed I just see a Tesco's logo anyway. Someone told me the other day that on of the promoters was getting a Costa Coffee logo tattooed on his arse as a sign of solidarity over business practices re: Gloucester Road and Clifton stores and all that.

Definitely needs a Bristol / Hijack Fatwa etc.

What a load of nonsense.

Well yes, I think that's rather the point.

Yeah I assumed this was sarcasm either that or completely mental.

With Pete its normally a heady cocktail of both. 

ha ha..... yea i hadn't picked up on the sarcasm initially 

[Wes Gorp]

[steve rice]

Pedanticside...only one person or institution can have a monopoly..the clue is in the first part of the word  mono

[Hooner]

Pedanticside...only one person or institution can have a monopoly..the clue is in the first part of the word  mono

 

[djshandy]

i don't see anybody in a position they haven't worked hard to reach

[Block Party]

http://www.hijackbristol.co.uk/board/the-forum/unity-vi-the-free-party-lakota-sat-24th-march/

This seems to indicate that there are around 20 different nights at least, and I'm sure that doesn't cover all those promoting in Bristol. It would appear that Bristol has quite a lot of different people putting on nights.

[Kirkio]

Pedanticside...only one person or institution can have a monopoly..the clue is in the first part of the word  mono

I was gonna say the same thing but decided to bite my tongue. 

[saughster]

Pedanticside...only one person or institution can have a monopoly..the clue is in the first part of the word  mono

I was gonna say the same thing but decided to bite my tongue. 

Ditto. I thought I did enough damage with my first post.....

[Alphabetical]

Hadn't actually been on to check back at this..  Sorry for the delayed response.. I guess this thread is pretty controversial etc and to be honest I know most people on here will slate me for actually posting it, but hey this is a pretty valid topic for discussion. I've been promoting events for long time now, and am pretty disillusioned with the whole affair these days.. Nothing to do with money, you run a business to succeed it doesn't matter what business it is. The Bristol dance music scene is amazing, renound across the country and admired by many.

For me personally, one of the most amazing things you can do is make people happy. Putting events on of any kind, but especially raves always gives me a real buzz - most promoters I know share similar thoughts.. Hat's off to the people in Bristol that have built some fantastic events and brands.. including bedlam, stb, run, drive-by, jjack and so on... Deservedly known for some great events. I'm sorry if I have offended, this isn't meant to be an attack. I just personally find it incredibly frustrating as someone with the resources and know how to put on some really amazing shows, I'm constantly held back by exclusivity of artists and venues. Anyways fuck it, someone said earlier.. the only way to do it is come up with something totally unique and not rely on getting the best venues or the best artists cus you aint never gonna get them!!
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