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« on: October 28, 2010, 11:22:40 »

http://www.funfancydress.com/all-costumes/afro-wig-unisex-black.html

 Smashed Smashed Smashed Smashed Smashed Smashed Doh! Doh! Doh! Doh! Doh! Doh! Tut Tut Tut Tut Tut Tut Tut Tut Tut Tut

wrong on sooooo many levels

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« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2010, 11:36:03 »

 I am laughing, but I am also sad
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« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2010, 11:40:00 »

WTF!  Eek
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« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2010, 11:42:24 »

It's like it's the 20s again  Doh!

So wrong. I wrote them a letter of complaint, the backwards Dorset morons
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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2010, 11:45:24 »

 Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

That. Is. Amazing.

I love the way shes got an animal skin on and a bone in her hand too.... Bloody savages!  Tomato Bad Teeth
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« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2010, 11:50:51 »

Doh! Oh dear
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« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2010, 11:57:04 »

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« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2010, 11:57:34 »

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« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2010, 12:11:52 »

I don't get what the fuss is all about.
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« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2010, 12:12:24 »

I don't get what the fuss is all about.

 Bad Teeth!!!!!!!!
I ment to do  Bad Teeth!!!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2010, 12:13:43 »

I don't get what the fuss is all about.

 Bad Teeth!!!!!!!!
I ment to do  Bad Teeth!!!!!!!!!!!!



 Laughing I was just limbering up into 'telling off' mode!
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« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2010, 12:14:41 »

I don't get what the fuss is all about.

 Bad Teeth!!!!!!!!
I ment to do  Bad Teeth!!!!!!!!!!!!



 Laughing I was just limbering up into 'telling off' mode!

I read it already. lol@u.  Laugh
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« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2010, 12:16:57 »

Why would a black person one to wear an afro wig...?
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« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2010, 12:17:20 »

I don't get what the fuss is all about.

 Bad Teeth!!!!!!!!
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 Laughing I was just limbering up into 'telling off' mode!

I read it already. lol@u.  Laugh

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« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2010, 12:18:01 »

I don't get what the fuss is all about.

I'm going to play devils advocate again...

Why is it wrong?

Am I not allowed to dress up as a character of another race?

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« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2010, 12:19:18 »

I don't get what the fuss is all about.

Why is it wrong?

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« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2010, 12:19:52 »

I don't get what the fuss is all about.

I'm going to play devils advocate again...

Why is it wrong?

Am I not allowed to dress up as a character of another race?

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lol - basically dressig up as a 'savage' while blacked up, carrying a bone, is pretty offensive!
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« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2010, 12:21:07 »

I don't get what the fuss is all about.

I'm going to play devils advocate again...

Why is it wrong?

Am I not allowed to dress up as a character of another race?

(waits for telling off)

I remember wanting to go to a party as Axel Foley from Beverley Hills Cop and didn't think blacking up was necessarily so bad. That picture's made up of so many stereotypes though, it seems  Eek
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« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2010, 12:21:42 »

I don't get what the fuss is all about.

I'm going to play devils advocate again...

Why is it wrong?

Am I not allowed to dress up as a character of another race?

(waits for telling off)

lol - basically dressig up as a 'savage' while blacked up, carrying a bone, is pretty offensive!

It's only wrong when you label it racist, otherwise it's just a costume... would it be offensive if I was a white savage?
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« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2010, 12:21:52 »

I don't get what the fuss is all about.

I'm going to play devils advocate again...

Why is it wrong?

Am I not allowed to dress up as a character of another race?

(waits for telling off)

lol - basically dressig up as a 'savage' while blacked up, carrying a bone, is pretty offensive!

Dressing up as Rich is pretty offensive.
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« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2010, 12:22:35 »

WTF!!

I'm surprised you don't get a free stick on tail with outfit  I am laughing, but I am also sad
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« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2010, 12:23:12 »

I don't get what the fuss is all about.

I'm going to play devils advocate again...

Why is it wrong?

Am I not allowed to dress up as a character of another race?

(waits for telling off)

lol - basically dressig up as a 'savage' while blacked up, carrying a bone, is pretty offensive!

It's only wrong when you label it racist. Otherwise it's just a costume... would it be offensive if I was a white savage?

It would be if a black person had 'whited up'.

And the black and white minstrel dude? That shit was axed in the 60s because so many black people found it offensive!
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« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2010, 12:25:43 »

I don't get what the fuss is all about.

I'm going to play devils advocate again...

Why is it wrong?

Am I not allowed to dress up as a character of another race?

(waits for telling off)

lol - basically dressig up as a 'savage' while blacked up, carrying a bone, is pretty offensive!

It's only wrong when you label it racist. Otherwise it's just a costume... would it be offensive if I was a white savage?

It would be if a black person had 'whited up'.

And the black and white minstrel dude? That shit was axed in the 60s because so many black people found it offensive!

Now im just thinking of the Scrubs episode where they both black & white up.
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« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2010, 12:26:04 »

It would be if a black person had 'whited up'.

I wouldn't find that to be offensive in the slightest.

EDIT: Don't get me wrong, I'm sure this (OP) would still be considered offensive in today's society, and maybe rightly so, I just want to fully understand why.
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« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2010, 12:27:50 »

I don't get what the fuss is all about.

I'm going to play devils advocate again...

Why is it wrong?

Am I not allowed to dress up as a character of another race?

(waits for telling off)

lol - basically dressig up as a 'savage' while blacked up, carrying a bone, is pretty offensive!

Best not to offend the Savages, might end up in their pot.
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« Reply #25 on: October 28, 2010, 12:27:55 »

It would be if a black person had 'whited up'.

I wouldn't find that to be offensive in the slightest.

cuz ur white u fool.
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« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2010, 12:29:30 »

It would be if a black person had 'whited up'.

I wouldn't find that to be offensive in the slightest.

You might not, no. If white people had, in VERY recent hsitory (relatively speaking), been enslaved by black invaders and labelled savages, you might feel differently.
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« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2010, 12:29:53 »

I don't get what the fuss is all about.

I'm going to play devils advocate again...

Why is it wrong?

Am I not allowed to dress up as a character of another race?

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lol - basically dressig up as a 'savage' while blacked up, carrying a bone, is pretty offensive!

Best not to offend the Savages, might end up in their pot.

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« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2010, 12:32:15 »

It would be if a black person had 'whited up'.

I wouldn't find that to be offensive in the slightest.

You might not, no. If white people had, in VERY recent hsitory (relatively speaking), been enslaved by black invaders and labelled savages, you might feel differently.

 Script This basically... savage was used as a racial slur til relatively recently, that picture just resurrects every bad stereotype
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« Reply #29 on: October 28, 2010, 12:34:54 »



And the black and white minstrel dude? That shit was axed in the 60s because so many black people found it offensive!

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(wiki) and its where Lenny Henry started his career (the sell out uncle Tom  Bad Teeth )
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« Reply #30 on: October 28, 2010, 12:38:46 »

It would be if a black person had 'whited up'.

I wouldn't find that to be offensive in the slightest.

You might not, no. If white people had, in VERY recent hsitory (relatively speaking), been enslaved by black invaders and labelled savages, you might feel differently.

 Script This basically... savage was used as a racial slur til relatively recently, that picture just resurrects every bad stereotype

Script Although I don't think simply blacking/whiting up (and not reinforcing a negative stereotype) should be considered racist in itself. Obviously if you're dressed as a savage or minstrel or whatever it's different and blatantly wrong and offensive. I'm sure people would disagree
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« Reply #31 on: October 28, 2010, 12:39:27 »

It would be if a black person had 'whited up'.

I wouldn't find that to be offensive in the slightest.

You might not, no. If white people had, in VERY recent hsitory (relatively speaking), been enslaved by black invaders and labelled savages, you might feel differently.
By that notion the black slave traders of the time wouldn't find this offensive?
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« Reply #32 on: October 28, 2010, 12:39:56 »

It would be if a black person had 'whited up'.

I wouldn't find that to be offensive in the slightest.

You might not, no. If white people had, in VERY recent hsitory (relatively speaking), been enslaved by black invaders and labelled savages, you might feel differently.

 Script This basically... savage was used as a racial slur til relatively recently, that picture just resurrects every bad stereotype

Yeah, but its a dead stereotype, its gone. Bring it up and laugh at how stupid it was together.

Its not offensive at all that a white person has blacked up, or a black person has whited up.
Why should it be? Like saying its offensive to a clown if anyone else dressed up as a clown, its as relevant.

The savage thing is a bit near to the bone (geddit) but why would a black person make a connection to someone dressed like that, any more than a white person - because of a retarded and dead stereotype.

Look at the Gollywog. That was banned by white people because it might be offensive to blacks, who hadn't even made the connection until after it was done, which in turn is far more offensive really. People just getting along with it and doing what they want, no problem. Make a fuss about it - create a connection, "do you think i look/am like that?" That is Racist.
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« Reply #33 on: October 28, 2010, 12:40:26 »

I think if you're dressing as a particular character its ok, i've seen a few people dressed as Mr.T and don't see a problem with it. I think you have to realise what you're doing and kind of aknowledge it tongue in cheek wink to the camera (like in scrubs when they do it)
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« Reply #34 on: October 28, 2010, 12:43:05 »

It would be if a black person had 'whited up'.

I wouldn't find that to be offensive in the slightest.

You might not, no. If white people had, in VERY recent hsitory (relatively speaking), been enslaved by black invaders and labelled savages, you might feel differently.

 Script This basically... savage was used as a racial slur til relatively recently, that picture just resurrects every bad stereotype

Yeah, but its a dead stereotype, its gone. Bring it up and laugh at how stupid it was together.

Its not offensive at all that a white person has blacked up, or a black person has whited up.
Why should it be? Like saying its offensive to a clown if anyone else dressed up as a clown, its as relevant.

This is sort of along the lines of what I was trying to get across but was incapable of actually getting it on screen.
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« Reply #35 on: October 28, 2010, 12:47:40 »

If you're going to wear a costume this Halloween, you might as well scare everybody...



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« Reply #36 on: October 28, 2010, 12:49:56 »

It would be if a black person had 'whited up'.

I wouldn't find that to be offensive in the slightest.

You might not, no. If white people had, in VERY recent hsitory (relatively speaking), been enslaved by black invaders and labelled savages, you might feel differently.

 Script This basically... savage was used as a racial slur til relatively recently, that picture just resurrects every bad stereotype

Yeah, but its a dead stereotype, its gone. Bring it up and laugh at how stupid it was together.

Its not offensive at all that a white person has blacked up, or a black person has whited up.
Why should it be? Like saying its offensive to a clown if anyone else dressed up as a clown, its as relevant.

The savage thing is a bit near to the bone (geddit) but why would a black person make a connection to someone dressed like that, any more than a white person - because of a retarded and dead stereotype.

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It would be if a black person had 'whited up'.

I wouldn't find that to be offensive in the slightest.

You might not, no. If white people had, in VERY recent hsitory (relatively speaking), been enslaved by black invaders and labelled savages, you might feel differently.

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Yeah, but its a dead stereotype, its gone. Bring it up and laugh at how stupid it was together.

Its not offensive at all that a white person has blacked up, or a black person has whited up.
Why should it be? Like saying its offensive to a clown if anyone else dressed up as a clown, its as relevant.

The savage thing is a bit near to the bone (geddit) but why would a black person make a connection to someone dressed like that, any more than a white person - because of a retarded and dead stereotype.

Look at the Gollywog. That was banned by white people because it might be offensive to blacks, who hadn't even made the connection until after it was done, which in turn is far more offensive really. People just getting along with it and doing what they want, no problem. Make a fuss about it - create a connection, "do you think i look/am like that?" That is Racist.

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« Reply #38 on: October 28, 2010, 12:53:09 »

It would be if a black person had 'whited up'.

I wouldn't find that to be offensive in the slightest.

You might not, no. If white people had, in VERY recent hsitory (relatively speaking), been enslaved by black invaders and labelled savages, you might feel differently.

 Script This basically... savage was used as a racial slur til relatively recently, that picture just resurrects every bad stereotype

Yeah, but its a dead stereotype, its gone. Bring it up and laugh at how stupid it was together.

Its not offensive at all that a white person has blacked up, or a black person has whited up.
Why should it be? Like saying its offensive to a clown if anyone else dressed up as a clown, its as relevant.

The savage thing is a bit near to the bone (geddit) but why would a black person make a connection to someone dressed like that, any more than a white person - because of a retarded and dead stereotype.

Look at the Gollywog. That was banned by white people because it might be offensive to blacks, who hadn't even made the connection until after it was done, which in turn is far more offensive really. People just getting along with it and doing what they want, no problem. Make a fuss about it - create a connection, "do you think i look/am like that?" That is Racist.

You don't think Black people made a connection between themselves and gollywogs??
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« Reply #39 on: October 28, 2010, 12:54:02 »

It would be if a black person had 'whited up'.

I wouldn't find that to be offensive in the slightest.

You might not, no. If white people had, in VERY recent hsitory (relatively speaking), been enslaved by black invaders and labelled savages, you might feel differently.

 Script This basically... savage was used as a racial slur til relatively recently, that picture just resurrects every bad stereotype

Yeah, but its a dead stereotype, its gone. Bring it up and laugh at how stupid it was together.

Its not offensive at all that a white person has blacked up, or a black person has whited up.
Why should it be? Like saying its offensive to a clown if anyone else dressed up as a clown, its as relevant.

The savage thing is a bit near to the bone (geddit) but why would a black person make a connection to someone dressed like that, any more than a white person - because of a retarded and dead stereotype.

Look at the Gollywog. That was banned by white people because it might be offensive to blacks, who hadn't even made the connection until after it was done, which in turn is far more offensive really. People just getting along with it and doing what they want, no problem. Make a fuss about it - create a connection, "do you think i look/am like that?" That is Racist.

You don't think Black people made a connection between themselves and gollywogs??
Its their love of jam that made the connection.

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If Ben Kingsley can win an oscar for blacking up and playing Ghandi then I think a bit of fancy dress is fair enough tbh. Its not like they've done the whole Al Jolson boot polish and big white eyes bit. There is quite a difference between that (the actual historical golliwog) and just some brown make-up.
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If Ben Kingsley can win an oscar for blacking up and playing Ghandi then I think a bit of fancy dress is fair enough tbh. Its not like they've done the whole Al Jolson boot polish and big white eyes bit. There is quite a difference between that (the actual historical golliwog) and just some brown make-up.

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I guess to get blacked up you need to have a black mate with you to advertise the irony Huh

I think society should move on a bit though, otherwise transexuals could start taking offence at drag queens.

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« Reply #44 on: October 28, 2010, 13:06:18 »

If Ben Kingsley can win an oscar for blacking up and playing Ghandi then I think a bit of fancy dress is fair enough tbh. Its not like they've done the whole Al Jolson boot polish and big white eyes bit. There is quite a difference between that (the actual historical golliwog) and just some brown make-up.

Would that be the same Ben Kingsley who was born Krishna Pandit Bhanji?

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« Reply #45 on: October 28, 2010, 13:08:25 »

If Ben Kingsley can win an oscar for blacking up and playing Ghandi then I think a bit of fancy dress is fair enough tbh. Its not like they've done the whole Al Jolson boot polish and big white eyes bit. There is quite a difference between that (the actual historical golliwog) and just some brown make-up.

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« Reply #46 on: October 28, 2010, 13:11:53 »

I guess to get blacked up you need to have a black mate with you to advertise the irony Huh

I think society should move on a bit though, otherwise transexuals could start taking offence at drag queens.

A white guy dressing up as a pale exsanguinated black zombie - that would be worth seeing.

i was actually thinking of going as MrT as a zombie to the zombie walk as i have a bit of a mohawk right now, i was gonna "black up" get a feather earing and some gold over a black t-shirt then cover my face with white/grey/green and blood. I never even thought someone would take offense - i still don't
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« Reply #47 on: October 28, 2010, 13:13:07 »

It would be if a black person had 'whited up'.

I wouldn't find that to be offensive in the slightest.

You might not, no. If white people had, in VERY recent hsitory (relatively speaking), been enslaved by black invaders and labelled savages, you might feel differently.

 Script This basically... savage was used as a racial slur til relatively recently, that picture just resurrects every bad stereotype

Yeah, but its a dead stereotype, its gone. Bring it up and laugh at how stupid it was together.

Its not offensive at all that a white person has blacked up, or a black person has whited up.
Why should it be? Like saying its offensive to a clown if anyone else dressed up as a clown, its as relevant.

The savage thing is a bit near to the bone (geddit) but why would a black person make a connection to someone dressed like that, any more than a white person - because of a retarded and dead stereotype.

Look at the Gollywog. That was banned by white people because it might be offensive to blacks, who hadn't even made the connection until after it was done, which in turn is far more offensive really. People just getting along with it and doing what they want, no problem. Make a fuss about it - create a connection, "do you think i look/am like that?" That is Racist.

You don't think Black people made a connection between themselves and gollywogs??

Not in an offensive way, no. Its a dolly, it advertised Jam.
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« Reply #48 on: October 28, 2010, 13:14:30 »

I guess to get blacked up you need to have a black mate with you to advertise the irony Huh

I think society should move on a bit though, otherwise transexuals could start taking offence at drag queens.

A white guy dressing up as a pale exsanguinated black zombie - that would be worth seeing.

i was actually thinking of going as MrT as a zombie to the zombie walk as i have a bit of a mohawk right now, i was gonna "black up" get a feather earing and some gold over a black t-shirt then cover my face with white/grey/green and blood. I never even thought someone would take offense - i still don't

No they wouldn't - because you're not dressing up as 'a black guy', you're dressing up as a character that was black. Can't believe how many people struggle to grasp this!
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I guess to get blacked up you need to have a black mate with you to advertise the irony Huh

I think society should move on a bit though, otherwise transexuals could start taking offence at drag queens.

A white guy dressing up as a pale exsanguinated black zombie - that would be worth seeing.

i was actually thinking of going as MrT as a zombie to the zombie walk as i have a bit of a mohawk right now, i was gonna "black up" get a feather earing and some gold over a black t-shirt then cover my face with white/grey/green and blood. I never even thought someone would take offense - i still don't
I take offense. Because that sounds shit.
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« Reply #50 on: October 28, 2010, 13:36:36 »

If Ben Kingsley can win an oscar for blacking up and playing Ghandi then I think a bit of fancy dress is fair enough tbh. Its not like they've done the whole Al Jolson boot polish and big white eyes bit. There is quite a difference between that (the actual historical golliwog) and just some brown make-up.

Would that be the same Ben Kingsley who was born Krishna Pandit Bhanji?

I could have been born Carlton Will Mohammed Ali Smith-Banks and I'd still be fucking white. Ben Kingsley is fucking white.
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« Reply #51 on: October 28, 2010, 13:39:32 »

If Ben Kingsley can win an oscar for blacking up and playing Ghandi then I think a bit of fancy dress is fair enough tbh. Its not like they've done the whole Al Jolson boot polish and big white eyes bit. There is quite a difference between that (the actual historical golliwog) and just some brown make-up.

Would that be the same Ben Kingsley who was born Krishna Pandit Bhanji?

I could have been born Carlton Will Mohammed Ali Smith-Banks and I'd still be fucking white. Ben Kingsley is fucking white.

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Kingsley was born Krishna Pandit Bhanji[1] in Snainton, near Scarborough, Yorkshire, England, the son of Anna Lyna Mary (née Goodman), an actress and model, and Rahimtulla Harji Bhanji, a medical doctor.[2]

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« Reply #52 on: October 28, 2010, 13:50:19 »

It would be if a black person had 'whited up'.

I wouldn't find that to be offensive in the slightest.

You might not, no. If white people had, in VERY recent hsitory (relatively speaking), been enslaved by black invaders and labelled savages, you might feel differently.

 Script This basically... savage was used as a racial slur til relatively recently, that picture just resurrects every bad stereotype

Yeah, but its a dead stereotype, its gone. Bring it up and laugh at how stupid it was together.

Its not offensive at all that a white person has blacked up, or a black person has whited up.
Why should it be? Like saying its offensive to a clown if anyone else dressed up as a clown, its as relevant.

The savage thing is a bit near to the bone (geddit) but why would a black person make a connection to someone dressed like that, any more than a white person - because of a retarded and dead stereotype.

Look at the Gollywog. That was banned by white people because it might be offensive to blacks, who hadn't even made the connection until after it was done, which in turn is far more offensive really. People just getting along with it and doing what they want, no problem. Make a fuss about it - create a connection, "do you think i look/am like that?" That is Racist.

Why don't you start referring to black people as niggers then Dan, see how that goes down. Maybe you can all laugh at how stupid it is

I have already.

I used to live in a block of flats with a Nigerian and an egyptian guy. We used to hang out, smoke weed, play videogames. They LOVED the gangsta raps, and used to refer to each other as nigger, or my nigger or whatever. One day the nigerian guy started referring to me as nigger, after the 5th or 6th time, i responded "sure nigger" like anyone might politely say "sure mate".

They didn't like it.


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Are you gona start telling mixed race kids they''re 'mostly white', next?  Smashed

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« Reply #54 on: October 28, 2010, 13:51:30 »

If Ben Kingsley can win an oscar for blacking up and playing Ghandi then I think a bit of fancy dress is fair enough tbh. Its not like they've done the whole Al Jolson boot polish and big white eyes bit. There is quite a difference between that (the actual historical golliwog) and just some brown make-up.

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If Ben Kingsley can win an oscar for blacking up and playing Ghandi then I think a bit of fancy dress is fair enough tbh. Its not like they've done the whole Al Jolson boot polish and big white eyes bit. There is quite a difference between that (the actual historical golliwog) and just some brown make-up.

Would that be the same Ben Kingsley who was born Krishna Pandit Bhanji?

I could have been born Carlton Will Mohammed Ali Smith-Banks and I'd still be fucking white. Ben Kingsley is fucking white.

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« Reply #56 on: October 28, 2010, 13:53:47 »

Are you gona start telling mixed race kids they''re 'mostly white', next?  Smashed

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« Reply #57 on: October 28, 2010, 13:56:40 »

Did he, or did he not, black up to play that part?
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« Reply #58 on: October 28, 2010, 13:59:58 »

Did he, or did he not, black up to play that part?

a) he is half Indian. If he adds colour to look more like the actual character he is playing, it's neither here nor there.

b) he isn't portraying a negative stereotype

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« Reply #59 on: October 28, 2010, 14:02:00 »

Irony is key, Robert Downy Junior blacking up in Tropic of Thunder... irony

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« Reply #60 on: October 28, 2010, 14:02:36 »

Did he, or did he not, black up to play that part?
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« Reply #61 on: October 28, 2010, 14:04:45 »

Did he, or did he not, black up to play that part?

a) he is half Indian. If he adds colour to look more like the actual character he is playing, it's neither here nor there.

b) he isn't portraying a negative stereotype

c) you're talking balls

The guys in the stupid picture in the OP aren't portraying a negative stereotype. They've combined a Wilma Flintstone costume with an afro wig for some reason but that ain't no negative stereotype I've ever heard of.

This thread is so full of people saying "oh someone will be offended by that". Fucking who? Where is this mythical fellow who is oh so offended so much that you feel the need to take secondary offence on his behalf in his absence? Or is it, perhaps, a little bit of hyperactive liberalism? Just a bunch of white people who feel better about themselves for being offended on behalf of black people who, truth be told, probably couldn't give a fuck about the picture on a joke shop website whilst they're still up against some genuine social injustices in society? Genuine injustices that I don't see any of you lot bleating on about.

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Did he, or did he not, black up to play that part?

a) he is half Indian. If he adds colour to look more like the actual character he is playing, it's neither here nor there.

b) he isn't portraying a negative stereotype

c) you're talking balls

The guys in the stupid picture in the OP aren't portraying a negative stereotype. They've combined a Wilma Flintstone costume with an afro wig for some reason but that ain't no negative stereotype I've ever heard of.

A black & white minstrel and a blacked up 'savage' isn't a negative stereotype you've ever heard of? And you call me the philistine  Smashed
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« Reply #64 on: October 28, 2010, 14:08:08 »

Did he, or did he not, black up to play that part?

a) he is half Indian. If he adds colour to look more like the actual character he is playing, it's neither here nor there.

b) he isn't portraying a negative stereotype

c) you're talking balls

The guys in the stupid picture in the OP aren't portraying a negative stereotype. They've combined a Wilma Flintstone costume with an afro wig for some reason but that ain't no negative stereotype I've ever heard of.

The first thing I thought of when I saw the picture was Eddie Murphy's Umfoofoo sketch from Raw. Is that not a negative stereotype?!

And Doh! at the Ben Kingsley comment - go on, actually slap yourself on the forehead for that one!
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« Reply #65 on: October 28, 2010, 14:09:10 »

Did he, or did he not, black up to play that part?

a) he is half Indian. If he adds colour to look more like the actual character he is playing, it's neither here nor there.

b) he isn't portraying a negative stereotype

c) you're talking balls

The guys in the stupid picture in the OP aren't portraying a negative stereotype. They've combined a Wilma Flintstone costume with an afro wig for some reason but that ain't no negative stereotype I've ever heard of.

This thread is so full of people saying "oh someone will be offended by that". Fucking who? Where is this mythical fellow who is oh so offended so much that you feel the need to take secondary offence on his behalf in his absence? Or is it, perhaps, a little bit of hyperactive liberalism? Just a bunch of white people who feel better about themselves for being offended on behalf of black people who, truth be told, probably couldn't give a fuck about the picture on a joke shop website whilst they're still up against some genuine social injustices in society? Genuine injustices that I don't see any of you lot bleating on about.

This thread is fucking retarded.

Pretty sure that not everyone who has posted in this thread is white
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« Reply #67 on: October 28, 2010, 14:13:22 »

Did he, or did he not, black up to play that part?

a) he is half Indian. If he adds colour to look more like the actual character he is playing, it's neither here nor there.

b) he isn't portraying a negative stereotype

c) you're talking balls

The guys in the stupid picture in the OP aren't portraying a negative stereotype. They've combined a Wilma Flintstone costume with an afro wig for some reason but that ain't no negative stereotype I've ever heard of.

This thread is so full of people saying "oh someone will be offended by that". Fucking who? Where is this mythical fellow who is oh so offended so much that you feel the need to take secondary offence on his behalf in his absence? Or is it, perhaps, a little bit of hyperactive liberalism? Just a bunch of white people who feel better about themselves for being offended on behalf of black people who, truth be told, probably couldn't give a fuck about the picture on a joke shop website whilst they're still up against some genuine social injustices in society? Genuine injustices that I don't see any of you lot bleating on about.

This thread is fucking retarded.

Pretty sure that not everyone who has posted in this thread is white

What you talking about, Justin is WELL white.

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« Reply #68 on: October 28, 2010, 14:14:32 »

Did he, or did he not, black up to play that part?

a) he is half Indian. If he adds colour to look more like the actual character he is playing, it's neither here nor there.

b) he isn't portraying a negative stereotype

c) you're talking balls

The guys in the stupid picture in the OP aren't portraying a negative stereotype. They've combined a Wilma Flintstone costume with an afro wig for some reason but that ain't no negative stereotype I've ever heard of.

This thread is so full of people saying "oh someone will be offended by that". Fucking who? Where is this mythical fellow who is oh so offended so much that you feel the need to take secondary offence on his behalf in his absence? Or is it, perhaps, a little bit of hyperactive liberalism? Just a bunch of white people who feel better about themselves for being offended on behalf of black people who, truth be told, probably couldn't give a fuck about the picture on a joke shop website whilst they're still up against some genuine social injustices in society? Genuine injustices that I don't see any of you lot bleating on about.

This thread is fucking retarded.

Pretty sure that not everyone who has posted in this thread is white

There's a couple of people on here who I don't really know so I dunno if they're black or white or green. But I know that everyone who expressed some form of offence at the thing is white.
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« Reply #69 on: October 28, 2010, 14:15:12 »

Did he, or did he not, black up to play that part?

a) he is half Indian. If he adds colour to look more like the actual character he is playing, it's neither here nor there.

b) he isn't portraying a negative stereotype

c) you're talking balls

The guys in the stupid picture in the OP aren't portraying a negative stereotype. They've combined a Wilma Flintstone costume with an afro wig for some reason but that ain't no negative stereotype I've ever heard of.

This thread is so full of people saying "oh someone will be offended by that". Fucking who? Where is this mythical fellow who is oh so offended so much that you feel the need to take secondary offence on his behalf in his absence? Or is it, perhaps, a little bit of hyperactive liberalism? Just a bunch of white people who feel better about themselves for being offended on behalf of black people who, truth be told, probably couldn't give a fuck about the picture on a joke shop website whilst they're still up against some genuine social injustices in society? Genuine injustices that I don't see any of you lot bleating on about.

This thread is fucking retarded.

LMAO.

The person who I got this story off is black, as are some of the people who have posted in this thread.

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« Reply #70 on: October 28, 2010, 14:18:15 »

Did he, or did he not, black up to play that part?

a) he is half Indian. If he adds colour to look more like the actual character he is playing, it's neither here nor there.

b) he isn't portraying a negative stereotype

c) you're talking balls

The guys in the stupid picture in the OP aren't portraying a negative stereotype. They've combined a Wilma Flintstone costume with an afro wig for some reason but that ain't no negative stereotype I've ever heard of.

This thread is so full of people saying "oh someone will be offended by that". Fucking who? Where is this mythical fellow who is oh so offended so much that you feel the need to take secondary offence on his behalf in his absence? Or is it, perhaps, a little bit of hyperactive liberalism? Just a bunch of white people who feel better about themselves for being offended on behalf of black people who, truth be told, probably couldn't give a fuck about the picture on a joke shop website whilst they're still up against some genuine social injustices in society? Genuine injustices that I don't see any of you lot bleating on about.

This thread is fucking retarded.

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« Reply #71 on: October 28, 2010, 14:21:10 »

Did he, or did he not, black up to play that part?

a) he is half Indian. If he adds colour to look more like the actual character he is playing, it's neither here nor there.

b) he isn't portraying a negative stereotype

c) you're talking balls

The guys in the stupid picture in the OP aren't portraying a negative stereotype. They've combined a Wilma Flintstone costume with an afro wig for some reason but that ain't no negative stereotype I've ever heard of.

This thread is so full of people saying "oh someone will be offended by that". Fucking who? Where is this mythical fellow who is oh so offended so much that you feel the need to take secondary offence on his behalf in his absence? Or is it, perhaps, a little bit of hyperactive liberalism? Just a bunch of white people who feel better about themselves for being offended on behalf of black people who, truth be told, probably couldn't give a fuck about the picture on a joke shop website whilst they're still up against some genuine social injustices in society? Genuine injustices that I don't see any of you lot bleating on about.

This thread is fucking retarded.

I'm black and the costume offends me.

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« Reply #72 on: October 28, 2010, 14:24:55 »


the costume offends me.


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« Reply #73 on: October 28, 2010, 14:26:59 »

Well if I'm in a hole (and am being proudly mocked in an edited thread title) then lets have at it... Why are you offended? I watched that South Park about how white guys can't really understand the intricacies of being black and what it means to have to endure racism in such a historical context that white people have never experienced, and to be fair I still don't fully get it. South Park and Jesse Jackson say I'm not supposed to get it, and maybe I'm not. But can we try? Can we try to explain to what is apparently my feeble, right-wing, BNP-loving, unempathetic little mind exactly what is so offensive about this obviously retarded little picture on some shitty joke shop website?
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« Reply #74 on: October 28, 2010, 14:30:42 »

If your using southpark as your reference for what defines racism then i'm afraid I can't help you.

Why don't you just read back through some of the reasons and given in this thread and also maybe use your brain and try and work out why it may be offensive. I can't really be bothered wasting my time spelling it out to you.
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« Reply #76 on: October 28, 2010, 14:35:27 »

If your using southpark as your reference for what defines racism then i'm afraid I can't help you.

Why don't you just read back through some of the reasons and given in this thread and also maybe use your brain and try and work out why it may be offensive. I can't really be bothered wasting my time spelling it out to you.

Well could you spell it out to me?
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« Reply #77 on: October 28, 2010, 14:37:26 »

If your using southpark as your reference for what defines racism then i'm afraid I can't help you.

Why don't you just read back through some of the reasons and given in this thread and also maybe use your brain and try and work out why it may be offensive. I can't really be bothered wasting my time spelling it out to you.

Well could you spell it out to me?

I'll tell you what. Have a think and list the reasons why you think it could be offensive.
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« Reply #78 on: October 28, 2010, 14:38:34 »

what is apparently my feeble, right-wing, BNP-loving, unempathetic little mind exactly what is so offensive about this obviously retarded little picture on some shitty joke shop website?

afaic noodley it's your ignorance and dismissive approach towards other peoples values and opinions that I find particularly offensive...The picture is not offensive. It is how it's used, the images it is designed to conjure up in peoples mind, and ultimately it's use of negative stereotypes and the exploitation of the suffering of millions of people in order for some cunt to turn a profit - just like the slave trade. It's outrageous, exploitative, inconsiderate and insensitive - funnilly enough the same reasons I took offence to Crack magazine.

You don't have to be an argumentative cunt all the time noodley. no one could think any less of you if you were actually nice once in a while.

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« Reply #79 on: October 28, 2010, 14:39:25 »

If your using southpark as your reference for what defines racism then i'm afraid I can't help you.

Why don't you just read back through some of the reasons and given in this thread and also maybe use your brain and try and work out why it may be offensive. I can't really be bothered wasting my time spelling it out to you.

Well could you spell it out to me?

I'll tell you what. Have a think and list the reasons why you think it could be offensive.

Or you could just tell him (and me, and hobo) and stop being such an evasive little bitch about it. Just a thought, is all. This sort of response is, I reckon, one of the main reasons why many white folk just don't understand this sort of thing. People seem to think it is beneath them to actually tell us. Its like asking a woman whats wrong. "Well, if you can't see whats wrong then I'm not going to tell you". Pfft.
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« Reply #80 on: October 28, 2010, 14:41:38 »

The picture is not offensive. It is how it's used, the images it is designed to conjure up in peoples mind, and ultimately it's use of negative stereotypes and the exploitation of the suffering of millions of people in order for some cunt to turn a profit - just like the slave trade. It's outrageous, exploitative, inconsiderate and insensitive.

So its the motivations that your mind projects onto the photo artist, rather than anything actually tangible, that makes it offensive? The same way that  darkie parties are offensive even though they originally and currently had and have nothing to do with racist motivation? Kind of similar to taking offence at the word niggardly without looking up what it actually means.
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« Reply #81 on: October 28, 2010, 14:46:42 »

The reasons it's offensive have been explained in this thread already.

it's not the third reich, but it's alarming that, for want of a better expression, this sort of thing still happens in 2010.

The discussion about it on fb has opinions from several black people who are clearly offended.


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« Reply #82 on: October 28, 2010, 14:47:49 »

The picture is not offensive. It is how it's used, the images it is designed to conjure up in peoples mind, and ultimately it's use of negative stereotypes and the exploitation of the suffering of millions of people in order for some cunt to turn a profit - just like the slave trade. It's outrageous, exploitative, inconsiderate and insensitive.

So its the motivations that your mind projects onto the photo artist, rather than anything actually tangible, that makes it offensive?

Yes, I suppose that would be one way of describing it.

The same way that  darkie parties are offensive even though they originally and currently had and have nothing to do with racist motivation? Kind of similar to taking offence at the word niggardly without looking up what it actually means.

No it's not like this. the examples you have used do not play on racial issues, merely coincidence, whereas the picture IMBO does.
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« Reply #83 on: October 28, 2010, 14:51:11 »

If your using southpark as your reference for what defines racism then i'm afraid I can't help you.

Why don't you just read back through some of the reasons and given in this thread and also maybe use your brain and try and work out why it may be offensive. I can't really be bothered wasting my time spelling it out to you.

Well could you spell it out to me?

I'll tell you what. Have a think and list the reasons why you think it could be offensive.

Or you could just tell him (and me, and hobo) and stop being such an evasive little bitch about it. Just a thought, is all. This sort of response is, I reckon, one of the main reasons why many white folk just don't understand this sort of thing. People seem to think it is beneath them to actually tell us. Its like asking a woman whats wrong. "Well, if you can't see whats wrong then I'm not going to tell you". Pfft.


I don't see why I need to spell it out to you. People in this thread have already done most of that but your fucking ego is too big to allow you to try and understand. If you don't realise by now why it is offensive than you are obviously not as intelligent as you proclaim to be.

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« Reply #84 on: October 28, 2010, 14:52:47 »

what is apparently my feeble, right-wing, BNP-loving, unempathetic little mind exactly what is so offensive about this obviously retarded little picture on some shitty joke shop website?

afaic noodley it's your ignorance and dismissive approach towards other peoples values and opinions that I find particularly offensive...The picture is not offensive. It is how it's used, the images it is designed to conjure up in peoples mind, and ultimately it's use of negative stereotypes and the exploitation of the suffering of millions of people in order for some cunt to turn a profit - just like the slave trade. It's outrageous, exploitative, inconsiderate and insensitive - funnilly enough the same reasons I took offence to Crack magazine.


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« Reply #86 on: October 28, 2010, 14:58:01 »


...don't call me a "little bitch" on an internet forum either cuz you wouldn't do it to my face. Fucking dickhead.


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« Reply #87 on: October 28, 2010, 15:04:13 »

what is apparently my feeble, right-wing, BNP-loving, unempathetic little mind exactly what is so offensive about this obviously retarded little picture on some shitty joke shop website?

afaic noodley it's your ignorance and dismissive approach towards other peoples values and opinions that I find particularly offensive...The picture is not offensive. It is how it's used, the images it is designed to conjure up in peoples mind, and ultimately it's use of negative stereotypes and the exploitation of the suffering of millions of people in order for some cunt to turn a profit - just like the slave trade. It's outrageous, exploitative, inconsiderate and insensitive - funnilly enough the same reasons I took offence to Crack magazine.

Do you still think of Somalians as Sand People or Jawas or whatever the fuck it was you called them?

That post was made at a very emotional point in my life, shortly after the most violent thing that has ever happened to me in Bristol. In hindsight I regret making that statement and would like to take this opportunity to apologize unreservedly to any members of the Somali or Tatooine community who may have taken offense - Jawa's are far more civilized than Tusken Sand Raider swine...

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« Reply #88 on: October 28, 2010, 15:08:27 »

what is apparently my feeble, right-wing, BNP-loving, unempathetic little mind exactly what is so offensive about this obviously retarded little picture on some shitty joke shop website?

afaic noodley it's your ignorance and dismissive approach towards other peoples values and opinions that I find particularly offensive...The picture is not offensive. It is how it's used, the images it is designed to conjure up in peoples mind, and ultimately it's use of negative stereotypes and the exploitation of the suffering of millions of people in order for some cunt to turn a profit - just like the slave trade. It's outrageous, exploitative, inconsiderate and insensitive - funnilly enough the same reasons I took offence to Crack magazine.

Do you still think of Somalians as Sand People or Jawas or whatever the fuck it was you called them?

That post was made at a very emotional point in my life, shortly after the most violent thing that has ever happened to me in Bristol. In hindsight I regret making that statement and would like to take this opportunity to apologize unreservedly to any members of the Somali or Tatooine community who may have taken offense - Jawa's are far more civilized than Tusken Sand Raider swine...

were you beaten up by somalians? I must say, if thats the case, then they're not so bad, they also gave navaho a shoeing. fair play to em imo.
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« Reply #89 on: October 28, 2010, 15:11:59 »

Why does everyone think it is so important to tell everyone else when they're offended? Just keep it to your fucking self and avoid it in future. Like crime hot spots and HIV.
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« Reply #90 on: October 28, 2010, 15:16:02 »

Why does everyone think it is so important to tell everyone else when they're offended? Just keep it to your fucking self and avoid it in future. Like crime hot spots and HIV.

It's a forum. It hosts topical debates, albeit usually retarded ones.
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« Reply #91 on: October 28, 2010, 15:16:22 »

were you beaten up by somalians? I must say, if thats the case, then they're not so bad, they also gave navaho a shoeing. fair play to em imo.

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« Reply #93 on: October 28, 2010, 15:20:41 »

If your using southpark as your reference for what defines racism then i'm afraid I can't help you.

Why don't you just read back through some of the reasons and given in this thread and also maybe use your brain and try and work out why it may be offensive. I can't really be bothered wasting my time spelling it out to you.

Well could you spell it out to me?

I'll tell you what. Have a think and list the reasons why you think it could be offensive.

Or you could just tell him (and me, and hobo) and stop being such an evasive little bitch about it. Just a thought, is all. This sort of response is, I reckon, one of the main reasons why many white folk just don't understand this sort of thing. People seem to think it is beneath them to actually tell us. Its like asking a woman whats wrong. "Well, if you can't see whats wrong then I'm not going to tell you". Pfft.


I don't see why I need to spell it out to you. People in this thread have already done most of that but your fucking ego is too big to allow you to try and understand. If you don't realise by now why it is offensive than you are obviously not as intelligent as you proclaim to be.

...don't call me a "little bitch" on an internet forum either cuz you wouldn't do it to my face. Fucking dickhead.



I do love veiled threats of violence. I should point out also that I am actually 6ft 7in tall and weigh in at over 17st and the only reason I don't call people a "little bitch" IRL is that I'm nice, not because I'm some weedy little nerd who is afraid of you.

Also, I "understand" everything that's been said here. I "understand" that golliwogs and the black and white minstrel show and the suggestion of "savages" are things that people are offended by. What I don't understand is WHY? Why do you let these things offend you? I don't get what would be so wrong with just chuckling at how Poole is basically trapped in the late 50s and then moving on with your day. Seriously.
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« Reply #94 on: October 28, 2010, 15:28:31 »

If your using southpark as your reference for what defines racism then i'm afraid I can't help you.

Why don't you just read back through some of the reasons and given in this thread and also maybe use your brain and try and work out why it may be offensive. I can't really be bothered wasting my time spelling it out to you.

Well could you spell it out to me?

I'll tell you what. Have a think and list the reasons why you think it could be offensive.

Or you could just tell him (and me, and hobo) and stop being such an evasive little bitch about it. Just a thought, is all. This sort of response is, I reckon, one of the main reasons why many white folk just don't understand this sort of thing. People seem to think it is beneath them to actually tell us. Its like asking a woman whats wrong. "Well, if you can't see whats wrong then I'm not going to tell you". Pfft.


I don't see why I need to spell it out to you. People in this thread have already done most of that but your fucking ego is too big to allow you to try and understand. If you don't realise by now why it is offensive than you are obviously not as intelligent as you proclaim to be.

...don't call me a "little bitch" on an internet forum either cuz you wouldn't do it to my face. Fucking dickhead.



I do love veiled threats of violence. I should point out also that I am actually 6ft 7in tall and weigh in at over 17st and the only reason I don't call people a "little bitch" IRL is that I'm nice, not because I'm some weedy little nerd who is afraid of you.

Also, I "understand" everything that's been said here. I "understand" that golliwogs and the black and white minstrel show and the suggestion of "savages" are things that people are offended by. What I don't understand is WHY? Why do you let these things offend you? I don't get what would be so wrong with just chuckling at how Poole is basically trapped in the late 50s and then moving on with your day. Seriously.

BELM.

People WERE just laughing at it, albeit also expressing their distaste for it. YOU'VE stirred it up with your ignorant bullshit. YOU'RE the only one that's made this a big angry belmfest. Seriously.
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« Reply #95 on: October 28, 2010, 15:30:19 »

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« Reply #98 on: October 28, 2010, 15:39:39 »

You kids today are so uncertain of what is okay or not okay when it comes to race..and so afraid to have any ideas of your own and so quick to put down people who might be a millimetre over the line of what is politically right on...

I recall that the Black and White minstrel show stopped going out because it was a bit dated as Saturday night entertainment come the late sixties..i don't recall people being upset about it until much later...i certainly thought as a kid it was a homage to the great black singers and the songs from the Southern states of america....how are we ever going to get on as people if we can't speak with ease about another person or race

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« Reply #102 on: October 28, 2010, 15:49:48 »

If I'm honest I was hoping for more from Navaho's contribution to a debate on racism.

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You kids today are so uncertain of what is okay or not okay when it comes to race

I genuinely feel like this. It's silly. I've never met a proper racist and fail to see why I should censor myself to such a high degree.

I'm obviously aware that racists exist but aren't they now the minority?
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« Reply #104 on: October 28, 2010, 15:50:23 »

Well, job done then on my part.  Two Thumbs Although I maybe pushed it a bit too far when people started threatening me with real-life ass-kickings.

Who has made a threat to kick your ass ?




Nobody, overtly. But Justin as good as said "if you said that to me in real life there would be consequences, of which you would be afraid". Not that I take it seriously. I'd be quite the hypocrit if I started taking the internet seriously. Also I'm sure you realised fairly early on this whole thing was part-troll from me. My honest opinion though is that this sort of "offensiveness" is only given credence by people going on about it. Its a bit like that daft Andrew Sachs/Russell Brand thing. People think "I'm offended" is the right phrase to use whenever they disagree with something. Most of those people and probably most of these people aren't "offended". When you're "offended" you go home later that day and you're still seething about it. Being offended is to experience a personal affront that stays with you beyond the meagre 5 seconds you spend being "offended" about something like this. The whole thing just doesn't warrant mentioning, and I'd sooner take the piss out of the whole notion that this is worthy of debate rather than actually seriously debate it.
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« Reply #105 on: October 28, 2010, 15:58:55 »

Justin Signal and Noodle in Hijack's first grudge match imo.
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« Reply #106 on: October 28, 2010, 15:59:53 »

Justin Signal and Noodle in Hijack's first grudge match imo.

Charity Boxing ?

Equal height but I think Justin is probably in much better shape than El Noodle
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« Reply #107 on: October 28, 2010, 16:02:12 »

Equal height

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« Reply #108 on: October 28, 2010, 16:04:56 »

Equal height

 Eek Serious? I give it large with all the talk but 90% of people who are as tall as me could kick my arse to Truro and back without breaking a sweat. There aren't many people as tall as me, but fuck me I am actually quite afraid of them.

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Justin Signal and Noodle in Hijack's first grudge match imo.

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« Reply #110 on: October 28, 2010, 16:10:31 »

You kids today are so uncertain of what is okay or not okay when it comes to race..and so afraid to have any ideas of your own and so quick to put down people who might be a millimetre over the line of what is politically right on...

I recall that the Black and White minstrel show stopped going out because it was a bit dated as Saturday night entertainment come the late sixties..i don't recall people being upset about it until much later...i certainly thought as a kid it was a homage to the great black singers and the songs from the Southern states of america....how are we ever going to get on as people if we can't speak with ease about another person or race

posting stuff on here about something like a party shop or whatever it was is just mischevious and inflammatory..nobody is any the wiser for it

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« Reply #111 on: October 28, 2010, 16:27:48 »

Justin Signal and Noodle in Hijack's first grudge match imo.

Charity Boxing ?

Equal height but I think Justin is probably in much better shape than El Noodle

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« Reply #112 on: October 28, 2010, 16:41:12 »

I thought Justin's reply had no hint of a threat in it.
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what does this mean then?

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« Reply #114 on: October 28, 2010, 16:55:00 »

You kids today are so uncertain of what is okay or not okay when it comes to race

I genuinely feel like this. It's silly. I've never met a proper racist and fail to see why I should censor myself to such a high degree.

I'm obviously aware that racists exist but aren't they now the minority?

It is silly too...i feel sorry for people who are unable to speak openly about how they see things..yeserday at Glens we had a conversation about old music..Glen said  "how come white people know more about our music than we do?"  so i said that Jamaicans aren't so intersted in what happpened yesterday musically only in what happens now..it must be brand new  but English people or some of us at least hold original Jamaican music in very high esteem"  the next guy in the queue said "true dat" and we chatted about other things pertaining to each others culture,got our food and left...nobody got upset or took offence because none was meant.

Racism is all over the place but it's not so bad as it was when i was young...however we must be free to talk and express ourselves and above all not to take it all too seriously when we talk to each other..exchange of ideas is the bridge across our divides and brings us closer to our neighbours.
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« Reply #115 on: October 28, 2010, 17:14:07 »

You kids today are so uncertain of what is okay or not okay when it comes to race

I genuinely feel like this. It's silly. I've never met a proper racist and fail to see why I should censor myself to such a high degree.

I'm obviously aware that racists exist but aren't they now the minority?

It is silly too...i feel sorry for people who are unable to speak openly about how they see things..yeserday at Glens we had a conversation about old music..Glen said  "how come white people know more about our music than we do?"  so i said that Jamaicans aren't so intersted in what happpened yesterday musically only in what happens now..it must be brand new  but English people or some of us at least hold original Jamaican music in very high esteem"  the next guy in the queue said "true dat" and we chatted about other things pertaining to each others culture,got our food and left...nobody got upset or took offence because none was meant.

Racism is all over the place but it's not so bad as it was when i was young...however we must be free to talk and express ourselves and above all not to take it all too seriously when we talk to each other..exchange of ideas is the bridge across our divides and brings us closer to our neighbours.


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« Reply #116 on: October 28, 2010, 17:30:23 »

You kids today are so uncertain of what is okay or not okay when it comes to race

I genuinely feel like this. It's silly. I've never met a proper racist and fail to see why I should censor myself to such a high degree.

I'm obviously aware that racists exist but aren't they now the minority?

It is silly too...i feel sorry for people who are unable to speak openly about how they see things..yeserday at Glens we had a conversation about old music..Glen said  "how come white people know more about our music than we do?"  so i said that Jamaicans aren't so intersted in what happpened yesterday musically only in what happens now..it must be brand new  but English people or some of us at least hold original Jamaican music in very high esteem"  the next guy in the queue said "true dat" and we chatted about other things pertaining to each others culture,got our food and left...nobody got upset or took offence because none was meant.

Racism is all over the place but it's not so bad as it was when i was young...however we must be free to talk and express ourselves and above all not to take it all too seriously when we talk to each other..exchange of ideas is the bridge across our divides and brings us closer to our neighbours.


What's that got to do with this? Obviously there are differences between racial groups. So what? I'm very comfortable with my attitude to race, and I think the picture in question is in comically backwards taste. There's no uncertainty r inability to speak openly about it at all. Don't really get where you're going with it tbh
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« Reply #117 on: October 28, 2010, 17:31:59 »

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« Reply #119 on: October 28, 2010, 17:45:35 »

Living room racism, belittling of ethnic groups and racist jokes historically has been the start of dehumanising different peoples and the build up to scapegoating and things a lot worse.


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« Reply #120 on: October 28, 2010, 17:48:43 »

Living room racism, belittling of ethnic groups and racist jokes historically has been the start of dehumanising different peoples and the build up to scapegoating and things a lot worse.

No no, historically the start of dehumanising different peoples was shoving them on boats, transporting them across the sea and selling those that survived to fat white men. I think living room racism happens somewhere towards the end of the struggle to reinstate those peoples as free members of society.
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« Reply #121 on: October 28, 2010, 17:51:05 »

You kids today are so uncertain of what is okay or not okay when it comes to race

I genuinely feel like this. It's silly. I've never met a proper racist and fail to see why I should censor myself to such a high degree.

I'm obviously aware that racists exist but aren't they now the minority?

It is silly too...i feel sorry for people who are unable to speak openly about how they see things..yeserday at Glens we had a conversation about old music..Glen said  "how come white people know more about our music than we do?"  so i said that Jamaicans aren't so intersted in what happpened yesterday musically only in what happens now..it must be brand new  but English people or some of us at least hold original Jamaican music in very high esteem"  the next guy in the queue said "true dat" and we chatted about other things pertaining to each others culture,got our food and left...nobody got upset or took offence because none was meant.

Racism is all over the place but it's not so bad as it was when i was young...however we must be free to talk and express ourselves and above all not to take it all too seriously when we talk to each other..exchange of ideas is the bridge across our divides and brings us closer to our neighbours.


What's that got to do with this? Obviously there are differences between racial groups. So what? I'm very comfortable with my attitude to race, and I think the picture in question is in comically backwards taste. There's no uncertainty r inability to speak openly about it at all. Don't really get where you're going with it tbh

don't take what i said as a personal attack on you..i don't know how you are with it at all..my remarks were general about attitudes to race among young people...however as you posted it in the first place then what i said is mild criticism of you on that note...what Noodle said in the begining was a fair enough statement...i don't have a problem with the picture and i wouldn't hold it up and urge others to comment on it...as i said it was mischevious...

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« Reply #122 on: October 28, 2010, 17:52:13 »

I don't get what the fuss is all about.

I'm going to play devils advocate again...

Why is it wrong?

Am I not allowed to dress up as a character of another race?

(waits for telling off)

lol - basically dressig up as a 'savage' while blacked up, carrying a bone, is pretty offensive!

since when were black people savages? sorry i wasnt born in the 1800's and the only savages i can think of are the flintstones?


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« Reply #123 on: October 28, 2010, 17:57:49 »

Living room racism, belittling of ethnic groups and racist jokes historically has been the start of dehumanising different peoples and the build up to scapegoating and things a lot worse.

No no, historically the start of dehumanising different peoples was shoving them on boats, transporting them across the sea and selling those that survived to fat white men. I think living room racism happens somewhere towards the end of the struggle to reinstate those peoples as free members of society.

Yeah because there wasn't a campaign of belittling people in Rwanda or Nazi germany was there? And the reason the slave trade flourished is people were sold on the idea that black people were savages and different, lesser people who it was ok to buy and sell.
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« Reply #124 on: October 28, 2010, 17:59:17 »

I don't get what the fuss is all about.

I'm going to play devils advocate again...

Why is it wrong?

Am I not allowed to dress up as a character of another race?

(waits for telling off)

lol - basically dressig up as a 'savage' while blacked up, carrying a bone, is pretty offensive!

since when were black people savages? sorry i wasnt born in the 1800's and the only savages i can think of are the flintstones?


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Living room racism, belittling of ethnic groups and racist jokes historically has been the start of dehumanising different peoples and the build up to scapegoating and things a lot worse.

No no, historically the start of dehumanising different peoples was shoving them on boats, transporting them across the sea and selling those that survived to fat white men. I think living room racism happens somewhere towards the end of the struggle to reinstate those peoples as free members of society.

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« Reply #126 on: October 28, 2010, 18:19:16 »

I don't get what the fuss is all about.

I'm going to play devils advocate again...

Why is it wrong?

Am I not allowed to dress up as a character of another race?

(waits for telling off)

lol - basically dressig up as a 'savage' while blacked up, carrying a bone, is pretty offensive!

since when were black people savages? sorry i wasnt born in the 1800's and the only savages i can think of are the flintstones?


fucking racists hannah and barbara not having at least a token savage black man  Tut Tut


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« Reply #127 on: October 28, 2010, 18:19:51 »

the only savages i can think of are the flintstones?

 what about this cunt?



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Joke fail when the picture is so big you can't actually tell who it is.  Sad
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Joke fail when the picture is so big you can't actually tell who it is.  Sad

Who said it was a joke...and what makes you think it failed...

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Got to say, I agree with Mr Rice on this one.

I also think it's a bit unfair to change the thread title name to what is now an attack on Noodle.

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People are far too eager to label someone else as a racist these days.

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People are far too eager to label someone else as a racist these days.

 you live in oz...that's probably the second most racist country on the planet...
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People are far too eager to label someone else as a racist these days.

 you live in oz...that's probably the second most racist country on the planet...

Not overtly...it doesn't come across as intentional racism, just naivety (as far as blacks are concerned - Asians are another case entirely)
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Got to say, I agree with Mr Rice on this one.

I also think it's a bit unfair to change the thread title name to what is now an attack on Noodle.

You might loathe what he says, but don't resort to playground tactics. Two Thumbs

Alright, maybe I got a bit carried away with the belmfest yesterday, I don't mean anything personally against Noodle.

This place is driving me mental. Everything gets taken to the most extreme degree, usually by virtue of Noodle's vitriol. Now all you doofuses are wading in with the 'chill out, why's everyone making such a fuss' bullshit. Meeeehhhh. It's a backwards bit of merchandise that belongs in the 60s, not the third reich. Now it's a 3 page belmfest.

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Got to say, I agree with Mr Rice on this one.

I also think it's a bit unfair to change the thread title name to what is now an attack on Noodle.

You might loathe what he says, but don't resort to playground tactics. Two Thumbs

If noodle wasn't so quick to belittle and insult people in over half the threads he posts in I would agree with you. However, Noodle is pretty quick with the insults so I have zero sympathy for him on this occassion
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The ultimate irony of the Internet... Where everyone who "doesn't take it seriously" tells everyone else to calm down.

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« Reply #141 on: October 29, 2010, 08:15:39 »

Noodle, arguing the opposite of everything doesn't make you more intelligent, it makes you a bit of a dick.

Ewan, you're a bit of a fass sometimes.

Just because Steve Rice is old, doesn't mean he's always right.

I'm 8 foot 6 and 27 stone by the way, so if anyone's got a problem with any of those statements I will happily fuck your bracket right up.
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« Reply #142 on: October 29, 2010, 08:18:31 »

Noodle, arguing the opposite of everything doesn't make you more intelligent, it makes you a bit of a dick.

No it makes me look like a dick and gets everyone's backs up. This thread is the main reason why I didn't send a well shirty email to my boss yesterday. It gave me someone else to fight with and that's a good thing from my point of view. Seems to have a pissed a few hijackers off though.  Cheesy

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Noodle, arguing the opposite of everything doesn't make you more intelligent, it makes you a bit of a dick.

Ewan, you're a bit of a fass sometimes.

Just because Steve Rice is old, doesn't mean he's always right.

I'm 8 foot 6 and 27 stone by the way, so if anyone's got a problem with any of those statements I will happily fuck your bracket right up.

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« Reply #144 on: October 29, 2010, 08:38:01 »

@Noodle: in that it's a highly contentious issue that masks something that we really need to address... But it will also expose peoples prejudice's and stupidity...

And Steve being old makes him less likely to be right!   Bad Teeth

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Am I right in thinking that the term "belm" means sticking your tongue in your bottom lip and inferring that someone is in some way cerebrally challenged? Usually followed by the term "you spaz"? Surely that is a pretty offensive term to use or am I wrong in my understanding. Just seems like its a bit ihypocritical that the thread starter is offended by one thing which affects a body of people, but is fine with using another term that offends a different body of people.

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It doesn't matter what colour people's skin is, it just needs to be thicker.
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It doesn't matter what colour people's skin is, it just needs to be thicker.

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« Reply #150 on: October 29, 2010, 09:22:53 »

It doesn't matter what colour people's skin is, it just needs to be thicker.

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Give it a few thousand years (guess) and we'll all be the same colour anyway.

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Am I right in thinking that the term "belm" means sticking your tongue in your bottom lip and inferring that someone is in some way cerebrally challenged? Usually followed by the term "you spaz"? Surely that is a pretty offensive term to use or am I wrong in my understanding. Just seems like its a bit ihypocritical that the thread starter is offended by one thing which affects a body of people, but is fine with using another term that offends a different body of people.

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Am I right in thinking that the term "belm" means sticking your tongue in your bottom lip and inferring that someone is in some way cerebrally challenged? Usually followed by the term "you spaz"? Surely that is a pretty offensive term to use or am I wrong in my understanding. Just seems like its a bit ihypocritical that the thread starter is offended by one thing which affects a body of people, but is fine with using another term that offends a different body of people.

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Am I right in thinking that the term "belm" means sticking your tongue in your bottom lip and inferring that someone is in some way cerebrally challenged? Usually followed by the term "you spaz"? Surely that is a pretty offensive term to use or am I wrong in my understanding. Just seems like its a bit ihypocritical that the thread starter is offended by one thing which affects a body of people, but is fine with using another term that offends a different body of people.

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Am I right in thinking that the term "belm" means sticking your tongue in your bottom lip and inferring that someone is in some way cerebrally challenged? Usually followed by the term "you spaz"? Surely that is a pretty offensive term to use or am I wrong in my understanding. Just seems like its a bit ihypocritical that the thread starter is offended by one thing which affects a body of people, but is fine with using another term that offends a different body of people.

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« Reply #161 on: October 29, 2010, 10:41:11 »

I never really associated cavemen costumes with savages so when I black up and dress as a caveman it isn't offensive, I just like the way it sounds.
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I never really associated cavemen costumes with savages so when I black up and dress as a caveman it isn't offensive, I just like the way it sounds.


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I never really associated cavemen costumes with savages so when I black up and dress as a caveman it isn't offensive, I just like the way it sounds.




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Did he, or did he not, black up to play that part?

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« Reply #172 on: October 29, 2010, 14:29:58 »

You lot are a bunch of idiots. To suggest that a legit company are a bunch of backward racists because they have a listing (one of twelve thousand) for a product with a picture of a black cavewoman is beyond stupid. Apart from the fact that all 'cavemen' were most likely black as was the history of our race, Its made by an italian company, so black models were probably a rarity, and like someones already said, what black guy is gonna wear an afro?

Having grown up myself in a mix of cultures, Ive probably known more black and asian families in my time than you have probably seen on tv, why dont you welsh monkeys put your heads back up your own asses (you might see your shit more clearly) and leave the company out of it.

Oh no! I said Monkeys, and Welsh! I must be racist right?

F*ckin Idiots.
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« Reply #175 on: October 29, 2010, 14:45:11 »

I never really associated cavemen costumes with savages so when I black up and dress as a caveman it isn't offensive, I just like the way it sounds.

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« Reply #178 on: October 29, 2010, 15:02:41 »

Everyone is so damn angry.

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« Reply #179 on: October 29, 2010, 15:05:55 »

Mate im angry because these self righteous d*ckheads think its alright to hassle hard working honest people over somethin that they had no hand in. And yes, i do know them, and theres not 1 racist there.

The only racists i know are those that make a distinction and start labeling otherwise innocent people based on their own ignorance.
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« Reply #181 on: October 29, 2010, 15:12:16 »

My bad, Always confuse bristol with Cardiff.

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« Reply #183 on: October 29, 2010, 15:15:14 »

Im from London fella but i been living in Dorset a few years now..

And you know the people that run this joke shop?
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« Reply #185 on: October 29, 2010, 15:16:38 »

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« Reply #186 on: October 29, 2010, 15:21:35 »

I better than know them. They told me about all the abuse they been gettin by phone and email by all these people on some forum... And here i am. Had to have my twopennies worth. Professor bigmouth that i am.

And it aint a Joke Shop, its a Fancy Dress Supplier.
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« Reply #189 on: October 29, 2010, 15:31:48 »

"I know more black people than you!"

lol. Aside from calling them out for stocking what many believe to be an offensive item noone's 'abused' the shop - at least not on here.

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« Reply #191 on: October 29, 2010, 15:32:09 »

I really doubt that anyone from here has been phoning them (you) up. I know someone wrote them (you) a letter/email, but I doubt it was abusive. Might be another forum innit.
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« Reply #192 on: October 29, 2010, 15:33:39 »

Perhaps you could replace the photo on your webiste with this one of Alex Ferguson and Harry Redknapp wearing the outfits?





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« Reply #193 on: October 29, 2010, 15:36:45 »

I better than know them. They told me about all the abuse they been gettin by phone and email by all these people on some forum... And here i am. Had to have my twopennies worth. Professor bigmouth that i am.

And it aint a Joke Shop, its a Fancy Dress Supplier.

OK.  I would speculate that there are thousands of places they could source afro wigs from and perhaps they should buy them from a supplier whose packaging is, at best, outdated and insensitive.
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« Reply #194 on: October 29, 2010, 15:39:34 »

Yeah, sadly there have been reports of calls and emails - Its just not needed. And unfortunately they cant vet each of the twelve thousand odd pictures that they rely on suppliers to find.

As for the ' I know more black people than you' quote, grow up. I was trying to make a point. I abhore rascism, in all forms, all my life i have been around multi cultures, and the point is, I know these people, and if i thought FOR A SECOND they were racist, my ties with them would end, quickly.

Im defending them, not promoting myself, least of all to the ignorant of you. I couldnt care less what your opinion of me is, but i care about accusations made which could ultimately affect the livelyhood of a business run by a damned nice group of people.
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« Reply #195 on: October 29, 2010, 15:40:06 »

The link is down now... happy now people?! Now where am I going to get my afro wig from?? I was planning on going as some sort of savage for a halloween party this weekend.  Bad Teeth
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« Reply #196 on: October 29, 2010, 15:45:04 »

Yeah, sadly there have been reports of calls and emails - Its just not needed. And unfortunately they cant vet each of the twelve thousand odd pictures that they rely on suppliers to find.

As for the ' I know more black people than you' quote, grow up. I was trying to make a point. I abhore rascism, in all forms, all my life i have been around multi cultures, and the point is, I know these people, and if i thought FOR A SECOND they were racist, my ties with them would end, quickly.

Im defending them, not promoting myself, least of all to the ignorant of you. I couldnt care less what your opinion of me is, but i care about accusations made which could ultimately affect the livelyhood of a business run by a damned nice group of people.

it's alright, their SERPS will be through the roof after yesterday. shiny silver linings.
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« Reply #198 on: October 29, 2010, 15:50:37 »

That is a fair point, and from what i hear, the image had been removed. Although i still am in disagreement with it being offensive, i guess its a majority rules situation. As for the phoning thing, i dont see why another forum would have anything to do with it.

Whats a SERP?

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« Reply #199 on: October 29, 2010, 15:55:03 »

Whats a SERP?

search engine results pages. the backlinks created all over the net will increase hits from potential buyers as well, i would imagine.
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« Reply #200 on: October 29, 2010, 16:01:27 »

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« Reply #201 on: October 29, 2010, 16:09:18 »

Sounds good, though i dont really know enough about the web to assume it would be positive. Would it not just link to this discussion?

Personally i am happy for whoever wants to to discuss the possible problems with the picture the discussion was about, it just saddened me that a few people actually brought the companies name into disrepute.
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« Reply #202 on: October 29, 2010, 16:13:47 »

How long had that picture been up? Surely someone must vet the content before putting it up...
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« Reply #203 on: October 29, 2010, 16:33:04 »

From the conversation i had earlier, it appears that the records on the site are sent in a file which is uploaded to their system, and then linked to images which are also supplied to them, on disc.

How could they vet 12,000 records? And even if they could, not everyone agreed initially that there was a problem with the image. From what i gather, the suppliers are a massive part of their industry, and if there was a known problem, it would be safe (even if incorrect) to assume that a problem like that would be remedied quickly.
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« Reply #204 on: October 29, 2010, 16:44:53 »

From the conversation i had earlier, it appears that the records on the site are sent in a file which is uploaded to their system, and then linked to images which are also supplied to them, on disc.

How could they vet 12,000 records? And even if they could, not everyone agreed initially that there was a problem with the image. From what i gather, the suppliers are a massive part of their industry, and if there was a known problem, it would be safe (even if incorrect) to assume that a problem like that would be remedied quickly.


of course they can vet 12,000 records. they sell it. they take responsibility for it. just like any real life store.

yeah, it's was a slip up. easy enough to hold their hands up though, apologise and take it down (if they believe it's wrong)

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« Reply #205 on: October 29, 2010, 16:54:06 »

From the conversation i had earlier, it appears that the records on the site are sent in a file which is uploaded to their system, and then linked to images which are also supplied to them, on disc.

How could they vet 12,000 records? And even if they could, not everyone agreed initially that there was a problem with the image. From what i gather, the suppliers are a massive part of their industry, and if there was a known problem, it would be safe (even if incorrect) to assume that a problem like that would be remedied quickly.


of course they can vet 12,000 records. they sell it. they take responsibility for it. just like any real life store.

yeah, it's was a slip up. easy enough to hold their hands up though, apologise and take it down (if they believe it's wrong)

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« Reply #206 on: October 29, 2010, 16:56:03 »

Right, 5 pages in, let me ask a question.

Is racial stereotyping as bad as being racist?

Yes?
No?
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« Reply #207 on: October 29, 2010, 18:00:47 »

Right, 5 pages in, let me ask a question.

Is racial stereotyping as bad as being racist?

Yes?
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Right, 5 pages in, let me ask a question.

Is racial stereotyping as bad as being racist?

Yes?
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Im from London fella but i been living in Dorset a few years now..

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« Reply #214 on: October 31, 2010, 21:53:58 »

all my life i have been around multi cultures

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« Reply #221 on: January 16, 2019, 11:17:48 »

You lot are a bunch of idiots. To suggest that a legit company are a bunch of backward racists because they have a listing (one of twelve thousand) for a product with a picture of a black cavewoman is beyond stupid. Apart from the fact that all 'cavemen' were most likely black as was the history of our race, Its made by an italian company, so black models were probably a rarity, and like someones already said, what black guy is gonna wear an afro?

Having grown up myself in a mix of cultures, Ive probably known more black and asian families in my time than you have probably seen on tv, why dont you welsh monkeys put your heads back up your own asses (you might see your shit more clearly) and leave the company out of it.

Oh no! I said Monkeys, and Welsh! I must be racist right?

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