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« on: October 28, 2010, 11:22:40 »

http://www.funfancydress.com/all-costumes/afro-wig-unisex-black.html

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wrong on sooooo many levels

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« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2010, 11:36:03 »

 I am laughing, but I am also sad
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« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2010, 11:40:00 »

WTF!  Eek
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« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2010, 11:42:24 »

It's like it's the 20s again  Doh!

So wrong. I wrote them a letter of complaint, the backwards Dorset morons
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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2010, 11:45:24 »

 Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

That. Is. Amazing.

I love the way shes got an animal skin on and a bone in her hand too.... Bloody savages!  Tomato Bad Teeth
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« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2010, 11:50:51 »

Doh! Oh dear
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« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2010, 11:57:04 »

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« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2010, 11:57:34 »

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« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2010, 12:11:52 »

I don't get what the fuss is all about.
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« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2010, 12:12:24 »

I don't get what the fuss is all about.

 Bad Teeth!!!!!!!!
I ment to do  Bad Teeth!!!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2010, 12:13:43 »

I don't get what the fuss is all about.

 Bad Teeth!!!!!!!!
I ment to do  Bad Teeth!!!!!!!!!!!!



 Laughing I was just limbering up into 'telling off' mode!
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« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2010, 12:14:41 »

I don't get what the fuss is all about.

 Bad Teeth!!!!!!!!
I ment to do  Bad Teeth!!!!!!!!!!!!



 Laughing I was just limbering up into 'telling off' mode!

I read it already. lol@u.  Laugh
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« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2010, 12:16:57 »

Why would a black person one to wear an afro wig...?
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« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2010, 12:17:20 »

I don't get what the fuss is all about.

 Bad Teeth!!!!!!!!
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 Laughing I was just limbering up into 'telling off' mode!

I read it already. lol@u.  Laugh

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« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2010, 12:18:01 »

I don't get what the fuss is all about.

I'm going to play devils advocate again...

Why is it wrong?

Am I not allowed to dress up as a character of another race?

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« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2010, 12:19:18 »

I don't get what the fuss is all about.

Why is it wrong?

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« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2010, 12:19:52 »

I don't get what the fuss is all about.

I'm going to play devils advocate again...

Why is it wrong?

Am I not allowed to dress up as a character of another race?

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lol - basically dressig up as a 'savage' while blacked up, carrying a bone, is pretty offensive!
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« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2010, 12:21:07 »

I don't get what the fuss is all about.

I'm going to play devils advocate again...

Why is it wrong?

Am I not allowed to dress up as a character of another race?

(waits for telling off)

I remember wanting to go to a party as Axel Foley from Beverley Hills Cop and didn't think blacking up was necessarily so bad. That picture's made up of so many stereotypes though, it seems  Eek
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« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2010, 12:21:42 »

I don't get what the fuss is all about.

I'm going to play devils advocate again...

Why is it wrong?

Am I not allowed to dress up as a character of another race?

(waits for telling off)

lol - basically dressig up as a 'savage' while blacked up, carrying a bone, is pretty offensive!

It's only wrong when you label it racist, otherwise it's just a costume... would it be offensive if I was a white savage?
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« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2010, 12:21:52 »

I don't get what the fuss is all about.

I'm going to play devils advocate again...

Why is it wrong?

Am I not allowed to dress up as a character of another race?

(waits for telling off)

lol - basically dressig up as a 'savage' while blacked up, carrying a bone, is pretty offensive!

Dressing up as Rich is pretty offensive.
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« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2010, 12:22:35 »

WTF!!

I'm surprised you don't get a free stick on tail with outfit  I am laughing, but I am also sad
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« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2010, 12:23:12 »

I don't get what the fuss is all about.

I'm going to play devils advocate again...

Why is it wrong?

Am I not allowed to dress up as a character of another race?

(waits for telling off)

lol - basically dressig up as a 'savage' while blacked up, carrying a bone, is pretty offensive!

It's only wrong when you label it racist. Otherwise it's just a costume... would it be offensive if I was a white savage?

It would be if a black person had 'whited up'.

And the black and white minstrel dude? That shit was axed in the 60s because so many black people found it offensive!
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« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2010, 12:25:43 »

I don't get what the fuss is all about.

I'm going to play devils advocate again...

Why is it wrong?

Am I not allowed to dress up as a character of another race?

(waits for telling off)

lol - basically dressig up as a 'savage' while blacked up, carrying a bone, is pretty offensive!

It's only wrong when you label it racist. Otherwise it's just a costume... would it be offensive if I was a white savage?

It would be if a black person had 'whited up'.

And the black and white minstrel dude? That shit was axed in the 60s because so many black people found it offensive!

Now im just thinking of the Scrubs episode where they both black & white up.
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« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2010, 12:26:04 »

It would be if a black person had 'whited up'.

I wouldn't find that to be offensive in the slightest.

EDIT: Don't get me wrong, I'm sure this (OP) would still be considered offensive in today's society, and maybe rightly so, I just want to fully understand why.
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« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2010, 12:27:50 »

I don't get what the fuss is all about.

I'm going to play devils advocate again...

Why is it wrong?

Am I not allowed to dress up as a character of another race?

(waits for telling off)

lol - basically dressig up as a 'savage' while blacked up, carrying a bone, is pretty offensive!

Best not to offend the Savages, might end up in their pot.
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« Reply #25 on: October 28, 2010, 12:27:55 »

It would be if a black person had 'whited up'.

I wouldn't find that to be offensive in the slightest.

cuz ur white u fool.
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« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2010, 12:29:30 »

It would be if a black person had 'whited up'.

I wouldn't find that to be offensive in the slightest.

You might not, no. If white people had, in VERY recent hsitory (relatively speaking), been enslaved by black invaders and labelled savages, you might feel differently.
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« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2010, 12:29:53 »

I don't get what the fuss is all about.

I'm going to play devils advocate again...

Why is it wrong?

Am I not allowed to dress up as a character of another race?

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lol - basically dressig up as a 'savage' while blacked up, carrying a bone, is pretty offensive!

Best not to offend the Savages, might end up in their pot.

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« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2010, 12:32:15 »

It would be if a black person had 'whited up'.

I wouldn't find that to be offensive in the slightest.

You might not, no. If white people had, in VERY recent hsitory (relatively speaking), been enslaved by black invaders and labelled savages, you might feel differently.

 Script This basically... savage was used as a racial slur til relatively recently, that picture just resurrects every bad stereotype
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« Reply #29 on: October 28, 2010, 12:34:54 »



And the black and white minstrel dude? That shit was axed in the 60s because so many black people found it offensive!

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(wiki) and its where Lenny Henry started his career (the sell out uncle Tom  Bad Teeth )
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« Reply #30 on: October 28, 2010, 12:38:46 »

It would be if a black person had 'whited up'.

I wouldn't find that to be offensive in the slightest.

You might not, no. If white people had, in VERY recent hsitory (relatively speaking), been enslaved by black invaders and labelled savages, you might feel differently.

 Script This basically... savage was used as a racial slur til relatively recently, that picture just resurrects every bad stereotype

Script Although I don't think simply blacking/whiting up (and not reinforcing a negative stereotype) should be considered racist in itself. Obviously if you're dressed as a savage or minstrel or whatever it's different and blatantly wrong and offensive. I'm sure people would disagree
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« Reply #31 on: October 28, 2010, 12:39:27 »

It would be if a black person had 'whited up'.

I wouldn't find that to be offensive in the slightest.

You might not, no. If white people had, in VERY recent hsitory (relatively speaking), been enslaved by black invaders and labelled savages, you might feel differently.
By that notion the black slave traders of the time wouldn't find this offensive?
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« Reply #32 on: October 28, 2010, 12:39:56 »

It would be if a black person had 'whited up'.

I wouldn't find that to be offensive in the slightest.

You might not, no. If white people had, in VERY recent hsitory (relatively speaking), been enslaved by black invaders and labelled savages, you might feel differently.

 Script This basically... savage was used as a racial slur til relatively recently, that picture just resurrects every bad stereotype

Yeah, but its a dead stereotype, its gone. Bring it up and laugh at how stupid it was together.

Its not offensive at all that a white person has blacked up, or a black person has whited up.
Why should it be? Like saying its offensive to a clown if anyone else dressed up as a clown, its as relevant.

The savage thing is a bit near to the bone (geddit) but why would a black person make a connection to someone dressed like that, any more than a white person - because of a retarded and dead stereotype.

Look at the Gollywog. That was banned by white people because it might be offensive to blacks, who hadn't even made the connection until after it was done, which in turn is far more offensive really. People just getting along with it and doing what they want, no problem. Make a fuss about it - create a connection, "do you think i look/am like that?" That is Racist.
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« Reply #33 on: October 28, 2010, 12:40:26 »

I think if you're dressing as a particular character its ok, i've seen a few people dressed as Mr.T and don't see a problem with it. I think you have to realise what you're doing and kind of aknowledge it tongue in cheek wink to the camera (like in scrubs when they do it)
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« Reply #34 on: October 28, 2010, 12:43:05 »

It would be if a black person had 'whited up'.

I wouldn't find that to be offensive in the slightest.

You might not, no. If white people had, in VERY recent hsitory (relatively speaking), been enslaved by black invaders and labelled savages, you might feel differently.

 Script This basically... savage was used as a racial slur til relatively recently, that picture just resurrects every bad stereotype

Yeah, but its a dead stereotype, its gone. Bring it up and laugh at how stupid it was together.

Its not offensive at all that a white person has blacked up, or a black person has whited up.
Why should it be? Like saying its offensive to a clown if anyone else dressed up as a clown, its as relevant.

This is sort of along the lines of what I was trying to get across but was incapable of actually getting it on screen.
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« Reply #35 on: October 28, 2010, 12:47:40 »

If you're going to wear a costume this Halloween, you might as well scare everybody...



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« Reply #36 on: October 28, 2010, 12:49:56 »

It would be if a black person had 'whited up'.

I wouldn't find that to be offensive in the slightest.

You might not, no. If white people had, in VERY recent hsitory (relatively speaking), been enslaved by black invaders and labelled savages, you might feel differently.

 Script This basically... savage was used as a racial slur til relatively recently, that picture just resurrects every bad stereotype

Yeah, but its a dead stereotype, its gone. Bring it up and laugh at how stupid it was together.

Its not offensive at all that a white person has blacked up, or a black person has whited up.
Why should it be? Like saying its offensive to a clown if anyone else dressed up as a clown, its as relevant.

The savage thing is a bit near to the bone (geddit) but why would a black person make a connection to someone dressed like that, any more than a white person - because of a retarded and dead stereotype.

Look at the Gollywog. That was banned by white people because it might be offensive to blacks, who hadn't even made the connection until after it was done, which in turn is far more offensive really. People just getting along with it and doing what they want, no problem. Make a fuss about it - create a connection, "do you think i look/am like that?" That is Racist.

Why don't you start referring to black people as niggers then Dan, see how that goes down. Maybe you can all laugh at how stupid it is
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« Reply #37 on: October 28, 2010, 12:51:16 »

It would be if a black person had 'whited up'.

I wouldn't find that to be offensive in the slightest.

You might not, no. If white people had, in VERY recent hsitory (relatively speaking), been enslaved by black invaders and labelled savages, you might feel differently.

 Script This basically... savage was used as a racial slur til relatively recently, that picture just resurrects every bad stereotype

Yeah, but its a dead stereotype, its gone. Bring it up and laugh at how stupid it was together.

Its not offensive at all that a white person has blacked up, or a black person has whited up.
Why should it be? Like saying its offensive to a clown if anyone else dressed up as a clown, its as relevant.

The savage thing is a bit near to the bone (geddit) but why would a black person make a connection to someone dressed like that, any more than a white person - because of a retarded and dead stereotype.

Look at the Gollywog. That was banned by white people because it might be offensive to blacks, who hadn't even made the connection until after it was done, which in turn is far more offensive really. People just getting along with it and doing what they want, no problem. Make a fuss about it - create a connection, "do you think i look/am like that?" That is Racist.

You don't think Black people made a connection between themselves and gollywogs??
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« Reply #38 on: October 28, 2010, 12:53:09 »

It would be if a black person had 'whited up'.

I wouldn't find that to be offensive in the slightest.

You might not, no. If white people had, in VERY recent hsitory (relatively speaking), been enslaved by black invaders and labelled savages, you might feel differently.

 Script This basically... savage was used as a racial slur til relatively recently, that picture just resurrects every bad stereotype

Yeah, but its a dead stereotype, its gone. Bring it up and laugh at how stupid it was together.

Its not offensive at all that a white person has blacked up, or a black person has whited up.
Why should it be? Like saying its offensive to a clown if anyone else dressed up as a clown, its as relevant.

The savage thing is a bit near to the bone (geddit) but why would a black person make a connection to someone dressed like that, any more than a white person - because of a retarded and dead stereotype.

Look at the Gollywog. That was banned by white people because it might be offensive to blacks, who hadn't even made the connection until after it was done, which in turn is far more offensive really. People just getting along with it and doing what they want, no problem. Make a fuss about it - create a connection, "do you think i look/am like that?" That is Racist.

You don't think Black people made a connection between themselves and gollywogs??
Its their love of jam that made the connection.
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« Reply #39 on: October 28, 2010, 12:54:02 »

It would be if a black person had 'whited up'.

I wouldn't find that to be offensive in the slightest.

You might not, no. If white people had, in VERY recent hsitory (relatively speaking), been enslaved by black invaders and labelled savages, you might feel differently.

 Script This basically... savage was used as a racial slur til relatively recently, that picture just resurrects every bad stereotype

Yeah, but its a dead stereotype, its gone. Bring it up and laugh at how stupid it was together.

Its not offensive at all that a white person has blacked up, or a black person has whited up.
Why should it be? Like saying its offensive to a clown if anyone else dressed up as a clown, its as relevant.

The savage thing is a bit near to the bone (geddit) but why would a black person make a connection to someone dressed like that, any more than a white person - because of a retarded and dead stereotype.

Look at the Gollywog. That was banned by white people because it might be offensive to blacks, who hadn't even made the connection until after it was done, which in turn is far more offensive really. People just getting along with it and doing what they want, no problem. Make a fuss about it - create a connection, "do you think i look/am like that?" That is Racist.

You don't think Black people made a connection between themselves and gollywogs??
Its their love of jam that made the connection.

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« Reply #41 on: October 28, 2010, 12:59:35 »

If Ben Kingsley can win an oscar for blacking up and playing Ghandi then I think a bit of fancy dress is fair enough tbh. Its not like they've done the whole Al Jolson boot polish and big white eyes bit. There is quite a difference between that (the actual historical golliwog) and just some brown make-up.
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« Reply #42 on: October 28, 2010, 13:01:49 »

If Ben Kingsley can win an oscar for blacking up and playing Ghandi then I think a bit of fancy dress is fair enough tbh. Its not like they've done the whole Al Jolson boot polish and big white eyes bit. There is quite a difference between that (the actual historical golliwog) and just some brown make-up.

Would that be the same Ben Kingsley who was born Krishna Pandit Bhanji?
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« Reply #43 on: October 28, 2010, 13:05:56 »

I guess to get blacked up you need to have a black mate with you to advertise the irony Huh

I think society should move on a bit though, otherwise transexuals could start taking offence at drag queens.

A white guy dressing up as a pale exsanguinated black zombie - that would be worth seeing.
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« Reply #44 on: October 28, 2010, 13:06:18 »

If Ben Kingsley can win an oscar for blacking up and playing Ghandi then I think a bit of fancy dress is fair enough tbh. Its not like they've done the whole Al Jolson boot polish and big white eyes bit. There is quite a difference between that (the actual historical golliwog) and just some brown make-up.

Would that be the same Ben Kingsley who was born Krishna Pandit Bhanji?

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« Reply #45 on: October 28, 2010, 13:08:25 »

If Ben Kingsley can win an oscar for blacking up and playing Ghandi then I think a bit of fancy dress is fair enough tbh. Its not like they've done the whole Al Jolson boot polish and big white eyes bit. There is quite a difference between that (the actual historical golliwog) and just some brown make-up.

Would that be the same Ben Kingsley who was born Krishna Pandit Bhanji?

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« Reply #46 on: October 28, 2010, 13:11:53 »

I guess to get blacked up you need to have a black mate with you to advertise the irony Huh

I think society should move on a bit though, otherwise transexuals could start taking offence at drag queens.

A white guy dressing up as a pale exsanguinated black zombie - that would be worth seeing.

i was actually thinking of going as MrT as a zombie to the zombie walk as i have a bit of a mohawk right now, i was gonna "black up" get a feather earing and some gold over a black t-shirt then cover my face with white/grey/green and blood. I never even thought someone would take offense - i still don't
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« Reply #47 on: October 28, 2010, 13:13:07 »

It would be if a black person had 'whited up'.

I wouldn't find that to be offensive in the slightest.

You might not, no. If white people had, in VERY recent hsitory (relatively speaking), been enslaved by black invaders and labelled savages, you might feel differently.

 Script This basically... savage was used as a racial slur til relatively recently, that picture just resurrects every bad stereotype

Yeah, but its a dead stereotype, its gone. Bring it up and laugh at how stupid it was together.

Its not offensive at all that a white person has blacked up, or a black person has whited up.
Why should it be? Like saying its offensive to a clown if anyone else dressed up as a clown, its as relevant.

The savage thing is a bit near to the bone (geddit) but why would a black person make a connection to someone dressed like that, any more than a white person - because of a retarded and dead stereotype.

Look at the Gollywog. That was banned by white people because it might be offensive to blacks, who hadn't even made the connection until after it was done, which in turn is far more offensive really. People just getting along with it and doing what they want, no problem. Make a fuss about it - create a connection, "do you think i look/am like that?" That is Racist.

You don't think Black people made a connection between themselves and gollywogs??

Not in an offensive way, no. Its a dolly, it advertised Jam.
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« Reply #48 on: October 28, 2010, 13:14:30 »

I guess to get blacked up you need to have a black mate with you to advertise the irony Huh

I think society should move on a bit though, otherwise transexuals could start taking offence at drag queens.

A white guy dressing up as a pale exsanguinated black zombie - that would be worth seeing.

i was actually thinking of going as MrT as a zombie to the zombie walk as i have a bit of a mohawk right now, i was gonna "black up" get a feather earing and some gold over a black t-shirt then cover my face with white/grey/green and blood. I never even thought someone would take offense - i still don't

No they wouldn't - because you're not dressing up as 'a black guy', you're dressing up as a character that was black. Can't believe how many people struggle to grasp this!
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« Reply #49 on: October 28, 2010, 13:14:43 »

I guess to get blacked up you need to have a black mate with you to advertise the irony Huh

I think society should move on a bit though, otherwise transexuals could start taking offence at drag queens.

A white guy dressing up as a pale exsanguinated black zombie - that would be worth seeing.

i was actually thinking of going as MrT as a zombie to the zombie walk as i have a bit of a mohawk right now, i was gonna "black up" get a feather earing and some gold over a black t-shirt then cover my face with white/grey/green and blood. I never even thought someone would take offense - i still don't
I take offense. Because that sounds shit.
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