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« on: October 16, 2009, 09:55:32 »

The season of student idiots has begun! last year we had the idiot with the mini, this year this guy Doh!

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?Outrage_as_drunken_student_wees_over_war_memorial&in_article_id=753279&in_page_id=34


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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2009, 09:57:18 »

What a cunt.
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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2009, 09:58:04 »

I read that - if you're going to wazz in public, there's plenty of places to go and do that.
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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2009, 10:00:04 »

What a cunt.

 Script I'm surprised someone hasn't smashed his face in.
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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2009, 10:00:43 »

Yeah what a cock-cheese. He did go on record as saying he was 'deeply ashamed' of his actions, so at least he has remorse. Fucking stupid thing to do... I'm surprised no-one slapped him
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« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2009, 10:03:53 »

There are already Phil Laing hategroups on facebook...

When Ozzy Osbourne pissed on the Alamo and everyone though that was funny - the public are so fickle.

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« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2009, 11:01:23 »

he should learn to conduct his manner in a respectable and dignified manner like the majority of squaddies on nights out in garisson town city centres . . .oh wait . .
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« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2009, 11:28:22 »

He deserves a punch for that vest, never mind the pissing.
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« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2009, 11:50:05 »

A full apology at the Remembrance Sunday ceremony would be a good start at showing how "deeply ashamed" he is.
Fucking cunt.
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« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2009, 12:12:22 »

I don't see anything wrong with it to be honest.
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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2009, 12:12:57 »

There are already Phil Laing hategroups on facebook...

When Ozzy Osbourne pissed on the Alamo and everyone though that was funny - the public are so fickle.



If this cock-cheese also fronted Black Sabbath in their heyday, I'd forgive him. But he doesn't, does he? So burn him!
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« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2009, 12:13:19 »

I don't see anything wrong with it to be honest.

You're so edgy. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2009, 12:15:00 »

I don't see anything wrong with it to be honest.

I know what we'll be doing at your funeral then.
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« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2009, 12:15:54 »

I don't see anything wrong with it to be honest.

I know what we'll be doing at your funeral then.

pissing in the urn?! Be my guest...I'll be dead....
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« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2009, 12:18:05 »

I don't see anything wrong with it to be honest.

You're so edgy. Roll Eyes

 Script Roll Eyes

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« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2009, 12:21:44 »

I don't see anything wrong with it to be honest.

You're so edgy. Roll Eyes

Oh come on Evs I'm not saying this for effect! I GENUINELY don't see a problem with it, I see it as any other statue or landmark....I can't stand war memorials and poppies....it's just glorification of war in my opinion.
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« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2009, 12:25:25 »

I don't see anything wrong with it to be honest.

You're so edgy. Roll Eyes

Oh come on Evs I'm not saying this for effect! I GENUINELY don't see a problem with it, I see it as any other statue or landmark....I can't stand war memorials and poppies....it's just glorification of war in my opinion.

I'm utterly speechless.
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« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2009, 12:26:55 »

Who wants popcorn?
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« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2009, 12:32:35 »

I don't see anything wrong with it to be honest.

You're so edgy. Roll Eyes

Oh come on Evs I'm not saying this for effect! I GENUINELY don't see a problem with it, I see it as any other statue or landmark....I can't stand war memorials and poppies....it's just glorification of war in my opinion.

I'm utterly speechless.

 Script Punksi, PEOPLE died, people with familes. Whether the cause was right or wrong is neither here nor there.
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« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2009, 12:33:09 »

Who wants popcorn?

Can't we just pop the kernals into Punkski's jap's eye and shove his crotch in the microwave?
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« Reply #20 on: October 16, 2009, 12:35:39 »

He should be hung drawn and quartered on national TV at the midpoint of X-factor, or maybe on the last night of the Proms

(Phil Laing, not Punksi)

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« Reply #21 on: October 16, 2009, 12:36:25 »


I'm not a preacher Emma I'm an intellectual and a scientist. I follow logic and reason which is the best way to achieve the truth.

careful folks, you're about to get into an argument with a higher level of intellect here.

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« Reply #22 on: October 16, 2009, 12:38:00 »

I don't see anything wrong with it to be honest.

You're so edgy. Roll Eyes

Oh come on Evs I'm not saying this for effect! I GENUINELY don't see a problem with it, I see it as any other statue or landmark....I can't stand war memorials and poppies....it's just glorification of war in my opinion.

I'm utterly speechless.

 Script Punksi, PEOPLE died, people with familes.

Then they can go mourn them at their grave or at the field where they died in France.
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« Reply #23 on: October 16, 2009, 12:40:09 »

Who wants popcorn?

Can't we just pop the kernals into Punkski's jap's eye and shove his crotch in the microwave?

 Script
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« Reply #24 on: October 16, 2009, 12:41:09 »

Then they can go mourn them at their grave or at the field where they died in France.
You are a fucking idiot.
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« Reply #25 on: October 16, 2009, 12:42:09 »

I don't see anything wrong with it to be honest.

You're so edgy. Roll Eyes

Oh come on Evs I'm not saying this for effect! I GENUINELY don't see a problem with it, I see it as any other statue or landmark....I can't stand war memorials and poppies....it's just glorification of war in my opinion.

I'm utterly speechless.

 Script Punksi, PEOPLE died, people with familes.

Then they can go mourn them at their grave or at the field where they died in France.

You don't think that millions of young men dying violently is worth publicly remembering?
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« Reply #26 on: October 16, 2009, 12:44:27 »


I'm not a preacher Emma I'm an intellectual and a scientist. I follow logic and reason which is the best way to achieve the truth.

careful folks, you're about to get into an argument with a higher level of intellect here.



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« Reply #27 on: October 16, 2009, 12:48:57 »

"Another" makes it sound like this is surprising.... which it isn't.

Punksi's reaction however is another matter  Oh my! That's so funny, but EEEEEEEEEEEK!
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« Reply #28 on: October 16, 2009, 12:50:24 »

I don't see anything wrong with it to be honest.

You're so edgy. Roll Eyes

Oh come on Evs I'm not saying this for effect! I GENUINELY don't see a problem with it, I see it as any other statue or landmark....I can't stand war memorials and poppies....it's just glorification of war in my opinion.

I'm utterly speechless.

 Script Punksi, PEOPLE died, people with familes.

Then they can go mourn them at their grave or at the field where they died in France.

Done that!  Had a damn good public piddle while I was there too Wink
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« Reply #29 on: October 16, 2009, 12:52:21 »

E-Lynching!




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« Reply #30 on: October 16, 2009, 12:53:31 »

I don't see anything wrong with it to be honest.

You're so edgy. Roll Eyes

Oh come on Evs I'm not saying this for effect! I GENUINELY don't see a problem with it, I see it as any other statue or landmark....I can't stand war memorials and poppies....it's just glorification of war in my opinion.

I'm utterly speechless.

 Script Punksi, PEOPLE died, people with familes.

Then they can go mourn them at their grave or at the field where they died in France.

You don't think that millions of young men dying violently is worth publicly remembering?

Not in the name of war, no.
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« Reply #31 on: October 16, 2009, 12:54:18 »

What a cunt.

 Script I'm surprised someone hasn't smashed his face in.

Give it time!  I'M SO ANGRY!
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« Reply #32 on: October 16, 2009, 12:55:47 »

E-Lynching!






First person to create a group about Punksi that contains a link to this thread wins 10 internets.
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« Reply #33 on: October 16, 2009, 12:56:48 »

E-Lynching!






First person to create a group about Punksi that contains a link to this thread wins 10 internets.

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« Reply #34 on: October 16, 2009, 12:58:51 »

I don't see anything wrong with it to be honest.

You're so edgy. Roll Eyes

Oh come on Evs I'm not saying this for effect! I GENUINELY don't see a problem with it, I see it as any other statue or landmark....I can't stand war memorials and poppies....it's just glorification of war in my opinion.

I'm utterly speechless.

 Script Punksi, PEOPLE died, people with familes.

Then they can go mourn them at their grave or at the field where they died in France.

You don't think that millions of young men dying violently is worth publicly remembering?

Not in the name of war, no.

You don't think it's a pretty compelling advert AGAINST war? You don't think the people who gave their lives to protect the country against the threat of invasion and families who lost their sons, husbands and fathers deserve a public tribute to their sacrifice - a permanent structure by which to remember what this country lost?
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« Reply #35 on: October 16, 2009, 13:00:53 »

 Doh! jesus christ ed  Doh!
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« Reply #36 on: October 16, 2009, 13:01:11 »

You don't think that millions of young men dying violently is worth publicly remembering?

Not in the name of war, no.

You are an ignorant prick.

My Grandad was in the D-Day landings. He didn't die though. He killed people with his bare hands. Good breeding, strong genes. My genes. In short, I will kill Pussi Punksy with my bare hands, to honour the dead. Then we can all piss on your grave. See how you like it.
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« Reply #37 on: October 16, 2009, 13:02:37 »



You don't think it's a pretty compelling advert AGAINST war? You don't think the people who gave their lives to protect the country against the threat of invasion and families who lost their sons, husbands and fathers deserve a public tribute to their sacrifice - a permanent structure by which to remember what this country lost?


A valiant attempt mate, but I think your well-reasoned points are wasted on this Zammo-wannabe.
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« Reply #38 on: October 16, 2009, 13:10:29 »

You're wasting your time guys. Ed doesn't care what other people think about his views. Dead end argument.  OMG Death Star!!!11
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« Reply #39 on: October 16, 2009, 13:12:27 »

You're wasting your time guys. Ed doesn't care what other people think about his views. Dead end argument.  OMG Death Star!!!11

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« Reply #40 on: October 16, 2009, 13:15:11 »

You don't think it's a pretty compelling advert AGAINST war? You don't think the people who gave their lives to protect the country against the threat of invasion and families who lost their sons, husbands and fathers deserve a public tribute to their sacrifice - a permanent structure by which to remember what this country lost?

I think you make a point here Adam and yes it could be taken as an advert against war but I genuinely don't feel it is....at least not when the Tories, Labour, Mailgroup or Murdoch et al get their teeth into it.


My Grandad was in the D-Day landings. He didn't die though. He killed people with his bare hands. Good breeding, strong genes. My genes. In short, I will kill Pussi Punksy with my bare hands, to honour the dead. Then we can all piss on your grave. See how you like it.

So were both of mine mate - one died, one survived. And I'm not going to be buried I shall be burned....
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« Reply #41 on: October 16, 2009, 13:43:32 »

Wow man, you're so individual and morbid, I bet you have like a dyed mohican, piercings and nail varninsh Slayer
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« Reply #42 on: October 16, 2009, 13:55:07 »

It's like Ed gets possessed by some kind of demon as soon as he is in the vicinity of the internets, unbelievable.
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« Reply #43 on: October 16, 2009, 13:55:49 »

You don't think that millions of young men dying violently is worth publicly remembering?

It's harsh how we remember them as the brave though(which they are of course) instead of remembering who sent them there and told them to from an orderly line and run at the opposing line firing until everyone fell over!

Perhaps if we remembered what really happened and didn't cloud it as .gov.uk intends we would see sooner they are still doing ish like this and needlessly sending our men to die!
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« Reply #44 on: October 16, 2009, 13:56:49 »

But surely by not having these monuments it would be like pretending that war doesn't exist?
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« Reply #45 on: October 16, 2009, 13:59:40 »

You're wasting your time guys. Ed doesn't care what other people think about his views. Dead end argument.  OMG Death Star!!!11

True scientist innit Smiley  I wonder if you could give him valid argument tho he could be challenged Smiley 

Personally I wonder how much the rememberance day celebrations cost?  Again not that the heroes dont deserve it but it seems silly to rememeber whilst we are still doing it!  It's a bit like remembering the victims of buggery in the catholic church instead of stopping buggery in the catholic church IMO.
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« Reply #46 on: October 16, 2009, 14:03:02 »

You don't think that millions of young men dying violently is worth publicly remembering?

It's harsh how we remember them as the brave though(which they are of course) instead of remembering who sent them there and told them to from an orderly line and run at the opposing line firing until everyone fell over!

Perhaps if we remembered what really happened and didn't cloud it as .gov.uk intends we would see sooner they are still doing ish like this and needlessly sending our men to die!

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« Reply #47 on: October 16, 2009, 14:03:49 »

But surely by not having these monuments it would be like pretending that war doesn't exist?

True also Smiley

Maybe just take the focus off the 'oh the brave heros' and push it back onto the 'stop sending our men to die for little real gain'  the only wars UK citizens seem to want are ones for humanity(often hard these days as there are always two sides and you cant put either in power and putting in a non biased government and keeping it so is a full time job) and wars to defend ourselves(again you can't truely defend against terrorism we all jsut need to be no our toes like in the past growing up in IRA threatened london) so how about no wars!

If our leaders must play world politics how about you assasinate the occasional dick to see if something better fills the void and have another go if you get something worse Wink
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« Reply #48 on: October 16, 2009, 14:05:45 »

You don't think that millions of young men dying violently is worth publicly remembering?

It's harsh how we remember them as the brave though(which they are of course) instead of remembering who sent them there and told them to from an orderly line and run at the opposing line firing until everyone fell over!

Perhaps if we remembered what really happened and didn't cloud it as .gov.uk intends we would see sooner they are still doing ish like this and needlessly sending our men to die!

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a) this post is chock-full of dumb statements

b) I never said they were brave, I just said they died. I went on to say that why they died is neither here nor there.

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a) quote one and explain then ;p
b) I never said you did, I was talkign about public opinion the same one outraged by the pissing.  You seem to eb adding the levels of doh! yourself Wink
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« Reply #49 on: October 16, 2009, 14:18:10 »

You don't think that millions of young men dying violently is worth publicly remembering?


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b) I never said they were brave, I just said they died. I went on to say that why they died is neither here nor there.

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a) quote one and explain then ;p


For crying out loud.

"It's harsh how we remember them as the brave though(which they are of course) instead of remembering who sent them there and told them to from an orderly line and run at the opposing line firing until everyone fell over!

Perhaps if we remembered what really happened and didn't cloud it as .gov.uk intends we would see sooner they are still doing ish like this and needlessly sending our men to die!"

OK, here goes... We are talking about  WW2. Not Vietnam, not Iraq, not even WW1.

WW2 was the one where Hitler was invading as many countries as possible, and literally had to be stopped somehow. War technology wasn't so hot in 1939, and trench warfare was the best we could come up with in most cases. It wasn't exactly pretty, but your request for us to 'remember who sent them their and told them to form an orderly line etc' just brings us to the point I've just mentioned. Which I'm fairly sure everyone already does remember.
That IS what really happened, not sure how exactly '.gov.uk' have clouded it particularly...?
Obviously this isn't true of most other wars we've been involved in, but if you're gong to make random, sweeping and irrelevant broadsides at 'the government' please don't quote HALF of one of my statements as if you are somehow answering me.

"b) I never said you did, I was talkign about public opinion the same one outraged by the pissing.  You seem to eb adding the levels of doh! yourself Wink"

Well not really.

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« Reply #50 on: October 16, 2009, 14:18:26 »

Hijack seems to have turned into the Daily Mail b2b Evening Post comments whilst I have been away.

I dont even think this should be news - pissed idiot kid pisses on something.

I am sure The Sun were mighty relieved they had such a newsworthy and juicy story to put in their paper and didnt have to print another depressing story about soldiers being blown up in Afghanistan or something, that's not gonna sell papers is it.

Anyway, I thought there was a lynching?

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« Reply #51 on: October 16, 2009, 14:24:49 »

WW2 was the one where Hitler was invading as many countries as possible, and literally had to be stopped somehow. War technology wasn't so hot in 1939, and trench warfare was the best we could come up with in most cases.

You're confusing WW2 with WW1 there. Hardly any trench fighting in WW2 as far as UK forces were concerned.
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« Reply #52 on: October 16, 2009, 14:27:28 »

OK, here goes... We are talking about  WW2. Not Vietnam, not Iraq, not even WW1.

WW2 was the one where Hitler was invading as many countries as possible, and literally had to be stopped somehow. War technology wasn't so hot in 1939, and trench warfare was the best we could come up with in most cases. It wasn't exactly pretty, but your request for us to 'remember who sent them their and told them to form an orderly line etc' just brings us to the point I've just mentioned. Which I'm fairly sure everyone already does remember.
That IS what really happened, not sure how exactly '.gov.uk' have clouded it particularly...?
Obviously this isn't true of most other wars we've been involved in, but if you're gong to make random, sweeping and irrelevant broadsides at 'the government' please don't quote HALF of one of my statements as if you are somehow answering me.

"b) I never said you did, I was talkign about public opinion the same one outraged by the pissing.  You seem to eb adding the levels of doh! yourself Wink"

Well not really.

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Remembrance Day is on 11 November. It is a special day set aside to remember all those men and women who were killed during the two World Wars and other conflicts. At one time the day was known as Armistice Day and was renamed Remembrance Day after the Second World War.

Just because you only have one plan and it's waste is no reason in enact that plan.  You sound like a drone who works for me Sad  Go back to the drawing board until you have something semi workable, consult those who have or work in the field not those so far from it it could be space invaders!

The .gov.uk have clouded things by pushing the sob stories of the soldiers forgetting the crime of those that sent them there, this is great as it means it can continue as it has.  There where brave children working as chimney sweeps back in the day put there by men who knew the risk but didn't care enough to create a better solution or want to lose profit for new tools etc.

If you think about conscription you could say some where not even brave as you had two chances... Be shot in the front or be shot in the back Smiley
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« Reply #53 on: October 16, 2009, 14:27:47 »

WW2 was the one where Hitler was invading as many countries as possible, and literally had to be stopped somehow. War technology wasn't so hot in 1939, and trench warfare was the best we could come up with in most cases.

You're confusing WW2 with WW1 there. Hardly any trench fighting in WW2 as far as UK forces were concerned.

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As well as rememberance day!  Lol if your gonna argue a point that was originally in your favour at least research Smiley  Stuff all that though jsut read the original post before you shoot all your allies for treason Sad
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« Reply #54 on: October 16, 2009, 14:31:55 »

Anyone fancy joining me in a circle-jerk around Punkski's granddad's gravestone?

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« Reply #55 on: October 16, 2009, 14:37:30 »

Ali, I think you're really missing the point mate. Most people accept that wars are awful and should be avoided at all costs, it's more of a personal respect for those who died defending our nation whatever your views on these conflicts are.
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« Reply #56 on: October 16, 2009, 14:38:35 »

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« Reply #57 on: October 16, 2009, 14:42:18 »

Too many quotes to reply to - too confusing.

@ Ali - I might have got my war techniques confused between WW2 and WW1, it's not exactly my specialist subject.. but like Evs says it's nothing to do with the point that I was making. You've quoted me and made a point about people remembering the people that died and not the reasons for the war or why they were sent there, which is NOTHING to do with the point I was making.
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« Reply #58 on: October 16, 2009, 14:45:55 »

Ed's been quiet...
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« Reply #59 on: October 16, 2009, 14:46:49 »

Ed's been quiet...

He's probably curling one out in a mosque or something.
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« Reply #60 on: October 16, 2009, 14:48:57 »

Ed's been quiet...

He's probably curling one out in a mosque or something.

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« Reply #61 on: October 16, 2009, 15:03:56 »

Ali, I think you're really missing the point mate. Most people accept that wars are awful and should be avoided at all costs, it's more of a personal respect for those who died defending our nation whatever your views on these conflicts are.

Yeah I'm not saying the student is right or wrong more hijacking the debate to one worth talking about Wink
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« Reply #62 on: October 16, 2009, 15:09:28 »

Too many quotes to reply to - too confusing.

@ Ali - I might have got my war techniques confused between WW2 and WW1, it's not exactly my specialist subject.. but like Evs says it's nothing to do with the point that I was making. You've quoted me and made a point about people remembering the people that died and not the reasons for the war or why they were sent there, which is NOTHING to do with the point I was making.

Ewan! again I wasn't disagreeing as I have pointed our views are very similar I was just making a point based on your statement which echoes the words of many others and not just those who share both of our views.

Your techniques being confused is excusable you are not really a historian specialising in war strategy but I did expect you to know who we are giving thanks to on remembrance day Wink

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« Reply #63 on: October 16, 2009, 15:13:25 »

anyway the gist of the point I was trying to make is if you over push the heroes message you forget the fact most of these men died in vain.  Big up the boys in Afganistan but big up those who are working to stop more being sent out and to push for withdrawal as they might put an end to this forever.

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« Reply #64 on: October 16, 2009, 15:20:02 »

anyway the gist of the point I was trying to make is if you over push the heroes message you forget the fact most of these men died in vain.  Big up the boys in Afganistan but big up those who are working to stop more being sent out and to push for withdrawal as they might put an end to this forever.

Children don't piss on things people have emotions about Wink

What about the relatives of the soldiers who's names are on that memorial?  Fuck the government conspiracies...this is about respect for those who have fallen and those who they have left behind.

War memorials aren't about current foreign policy.
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« Reply #65 on: October 16, 2009, 15:21:38 »



War memorials aren't about current foreign policy.

Exactly. It ain't deep
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« Reply #66 on: October 16, 2009, 15:26:22 »

anyway the gist of the point I was trying to make is if you over push the heroes message you forget the fact most of these men died in vain.  Big up the boys in Afganistan but big up those who are working to stop more being sent out and to push for withdrawal as they might put an end to this forever.

Children don't piss on things people have emotions about Wink

What about the relatives of the soldiers who's names are on that memorial?  Fuck the government conspiracies...this is about respect for those who have fallen and those who they have left behind.

War memorials aren't about current foreign policy.

Remembrance Day – also known as Poppy Day, Armistice Day (the event it commemorates) or Veterans Day – is a day to commemorate the sacrifices of members of the armed forces and of civilians in times of war, specifically since the First World War.

That's current wars peeps Smiley

Yeah lets forget that the government want us to not question these wars but instead busy ourselves with sadness for our losses a sadness and country pride so big it handily dwarfs and thinking about why our soliders die Smiley

Now where is my copy of the sun Wink

War memorials remember all those sent to die since WW1 and including WW1 in wars for our country Smiley
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« Reply #67 on: October 16, 2009, 15:30:03 »

anyway the gist of the point I was trying to make is if you over push the heroes message you forget the fact most of these men died in vain.  Big up the boys in Afganistan but big up those who are working to stop more being sent out and to push for withdrawal as they might put an end to this forever.

Children don't piss on things people have emotions about Wink

What about the relatives of the soldiers who's names are on that memorial?  Fuck the government conspiracies...this is about respect for those who have fallen and those who they have left behind.

War memorials aren't about current foreign policy.

Remembrance Day – also known as Poppy Day, Armistice Day (the event it commemorates) or Veterans Day – is a day to commemorate the sacrifices of members of the armed forces and of civilians in times of war, specifically since the First World War.

That's current wars peeps Smiley

Yeah lets forget that the government want us to not question these wars but instead busy ourselves with sadness for our losses a sadness and country pride so big it handily dwarfs and thinking about why our soliders die Smiley

Now where is my copy of the sun Wink

War memorials remember all those sent to die since WW1 and including WW1 in wars for our country Smiley

That just has nothing to do with anything. FFS I agree with you to a certain extent, but it's not relevant!
Personally I would mourn and have respect for almost all the dead on any side in any war you care to mention, regardless of politics. Seriously not getting how this is complicated!
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« Reply #68 on: October 16, 2009, 15:33:07 »

You're a bit out there Dreadstar ...11th Nov wasn't instigated by this government... it is a focus point for all of us to contemplate the horrors of war, for those who gave up their youth to fight for this country to be able to recall their comrades who fell in battle...the Cenotaph and other memorials like it are there for all of us as a reminder.

  Our minds are diverted in many other ways by all governments while they thief our money but not this one...

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« Reply #69 on: October 16, 2009, 15:47:30 »

You're a bit out there Dreadstar ...11th Nov wasn't instigated by this government... it is a focus point for all of us to contemplate the horrors of war, for those who gave up their youth to fight for this country to be able to recall their comrades who fell in battle...the Cenotaph and other memorials like it are there for all of us as a reminder.

  Our minds are diverted in many other ways by all governments while they thief our money but not this one...

 I feel a bit sorry for the kid who had a piss on it...he must be having a shit day for a moments indiscretion




I know it's not instigated by the government, I know it's true reasons for existing I used to fund aise with the legion on the regs.  I just feel it may be being hijacked and used to hide things Smiley  It seems some people think its just for WW2 which must suck for the families of those lost since Sad

There are many other distractions of course Smiley  I just wonder with all the hype in the paper if this is not another one it smells like it Smiley

Dunno tbh anyone who don't think needs a slap IMO.  Anyone who thought would not have pissed there!  Hopefully this will school him and there will be one less non thinking drone for the rest fo us to bump into Smiley

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« Reply #70 on: October 16, 2009, 15:49:41 »

That just has nothing to do with anything. FFS I agree with you to a certain extent, but it's not relevant!
Personally I would mourn and have respect for almost all the dead on any side in any war you care to mention, regardless of politics. Seriously not getting how this is complicated!

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That just has nothing to do with anything. FFS I agree with you to a certain extent, but it's not relevant!
Personally I would mourn and have respect for almost all the dead on any side in any war you care to mention, regardless of politics. Seriously not getting how this is complicated!

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Ali it really doesn't

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i'd like a rembrandt's day. his stuff rules  Two Thumbs

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 Script Punksi, PEOPLE died, people with familes. Whether the cause was right or wrong is neither here nor there.

What, this one?
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You don't think it's a pretty compelling advert AGAINST war? You don't think the people who gave their lives to protect the country against the threat of invasion and families who lost their sons, husbands and fathers deserve a public tribute to their sacrifice - a permanent structure by which to remember what this country lost?


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« Reply #77 on: October 16, 2009, 16:11:39 »

War memorials are in a way just there as a nod by the powers that be to the families of those killed.as a placating measure.


BUT.

Why don't they remember everyone? theres many soliders killed in operations in wars we never hear about. Why? because the Goverment don't what the normal man to see that the whole act of war these days is profiteering. The dorset regiment 2nd batallion never get any mention due to their posting in Basra in 1943. Same as a lot of the forces fighting Japan.



So yeah, this guys a total dick, who proberly actually has some respect but in a moment of trying to look cool let the same sense of judgement that thought that vest was a good idea aim his cock for him. War memorials though are a form of 'lip service', Honour ALL the troops not just the ones that died in wars that are good for positive publicity.
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« Reply #78 on: October 16, 2009, 16:14:36 »

OK, here goes... We are talking about  WW2. Not Vietnam, not Iraq, not even WW1.

WW2 was the one where Hitler was invading as many countries as possible, and literally had to be stopped somehow. War technology wasn't so hot in 1939, and trench warfare was the best we could come up with in most cases. It wasn't exactly pretty, but your request for us to 'remember who sent them their and told them to form an orderly line etc' just brings us to the point I've just mentioned. Which I'm fairly sure everyone already does remember.

This one with all the inaccuracies Wink

So what are we talking about again?  Thought it was someone pissing on a war memorial not a WW2 memorial it's a war memorial Wink

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War memorials are in a way just there as a nod by the powers that be to the families of those killed.as a placating measure.


BUT.

Why don't they remember everyone? theres many soliders killed in operations in wars we never hear about. Why? because the Goverment don't what the normal man to see that the whole act of war these days is profiteering. The dorset regiment 2nd batallion never get any mention due to their posting in Basra in 1943. Same as a lot of the forces fighting Japan.



So yeah, this guys a total dick, who proberly actually has some respect but in a moment of trying to look cool let the same sense of judgement that thought that vest was a good idea aim his cock for him. War memorials though are a form of 'lip service', Honour ALL the troops not just the ones that died in wars that are good for positive publicity.

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« Reply #80 on: October 16, 2009, 21:37:48 »

I think its important to have rememberance day it gives people like Harry Patch a chance to speak out AGAINST all war and his sadness and respect for the loss of life on both sides. when he spoke he didn't glorify the dead  he spoke about how they were scared kids calling for their mothers.

Its not about policy or war really, its about respect for the young men who gave their lives.
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« Reply #81 on: October 17, 2009, 00:17:13 »

fair play to Harry Patch i've got utmost respect for that guy.
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« Reply #82 on: October 17, 2009, 06:34:16 »

Jeezus christ, I've read some retarded threads on here, but this jusssst about tops the lot.

Bear in mind that the vast majority of soldiers that died in the world wars were conscripts, of no more than 20 years of age.

I am absolutely astonished by the attitude of some people. Anyone that thinks that pissing on a memorial/grave is 'OK' needs to be sent to the nearest war-zone, to clear landmines with their tounge.

This student should either receive a jail term, or a public flogging. If that seems extreme, maybe get him to lie down, and get all the remaining veterans to piss on him.
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« Reply #83 on: October 17, 2009, 09:57:37 »

This thread is mind boggling.  Regardless of whether or not you think that a war was necessary, unwarranted, or completely pointless, the fact is that the people who died did so because they believed at the time that what they were doing was contributing to a greater good and the improvement of an awful situation.  This may have been horribly misguided, and yes, they may have had their judgement clouded by governmental propaganda but regardless a public war memorial is exactly what it says on the tin; it is a monument by which people can pay their respects, grieve their losses, and unless i'm mistaken remember that war is a terrible, terrible, horrific thing for all those involved whether directly or indirectly.

I'm sure that the drunken little oik isn't the first to have shown such massive ignorance, he's just unlucky enough to have been snapped in his moment of idiocy and i'm sure he regrets his actions and his family are disgusted with him, but probably just because he got caught and was publicly shamed.  I'm sure that karma will bite him on the ass, and until then who doesn't love a little facebook lynching?!

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« Reply #84 on: October 17, 2009, 10:12:57 »

Jeezus christ, I've read some retarded threads on here, but this jusssst about tops the lot.

Bear in mind that the vast majority of soldiers that died in the world wars were conscripts, of no more than 20 years of age.

I am absolutely astonished by the attitude of some people. Anyone that thinks that pissing on a memorial/grave is 'OK' needs to be sent to the nearest war-zone, to clear landmines with their tounge.

This student should either receive a jail term, or a public flogging. If that seems extreme, maybe get him to lie down, and get all the remaining veterans to piss on him.

I know a couple of vets of our current wars who woulld gladly piss on him, in fact i'll do it! Slayer
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« Reply #85 on: October 17, 2009, 10:23:52 »

I don't see anything wrong with it to be honest.

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« Reply #86 on: October 17, 2009, 12:20:07 »

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The only people qualified to dish out any punishment to this unfortunate kid  are those who have never done anything stupid while drunk...

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« Reply #88 on: October 17, 2009, 12:40:27 »

^ ^ i've done a few silly things while drunk, but as far as i'm aware i've never disrespected millions of war dead, the entire armed forces and the probably the whole country.

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The only people qualified to dish out any punishment to this unfortunate kid  are those who have never done anything stupid while drunk...

the rest of you are no better than sanctimonious bullies

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Yeah man, fully agreed. Obvously it's a fucking retarded thing to do, but we've all done shit that we've massively regretted when in our teens or early twenties (I kept doing this kinda stuff until I was 25 FFS). If he does it again then obviously there's a reason to spout the vitriol but lets not get all Daily Mail about it after one incident.  Two Thumbs
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« Reply #90 on: October 17, 2009, 13:26:37 »

The only people qualified to dish out any punishment to this unfortunate kid  are those who have never done anything stupid while drunk...

the rest of you are no better than sanctimonious bullies

Fair point Steve, but to be honest I think the majority of the votriol in this thread is directed at Cuntski.

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« Reply #91 on: October 17, 2009, 14:14:36 »

The only people qualified to dish out any punishment to this unfortunate kid  are those who have never done anything stupid while drunk...

the rest of you are no better than sanctimonious bullies

Fair point Steve, but to be honest I think the majority of the votriol in this thread is directed at Cuntski.



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« Reply #92 on: October 17, 2009, 14:15:16 »

Unfortunate kid???!  

Sorry Steve, being sanctimonious has absolutely nothing to do with it.

Yes we've all been drunk, but no, we have not all disrespected the dead who fought for our students to have the freedom to piss on their memory.

I hate this whole 'don't get Daily Mail about it...' trite bullshit, sorry to offend all those with pseudo-liberal sensibilities, but people are quite rightly offended by this. As anti-war as I am, I appreciate those that laid their lives down for us.

If he had done this in pretty much any other country in the world - he would have been dealt with.
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« Reply #93 on: October 17, 2009, 15:31:53 »

You can take offence if you like but you have to view these things in context...i'd give him the benefit of the doubt and say he was a kid who had too much to drink...courtesy of a club night called Carnage which makes thousands out of giving young people far more booze than they can handle...and made a stupid mistake..no doubt he feels very badly about it now and has to live with what he did for the next few months until people find something else to be outraged by....if i thought for one minute he meant real disrespect i'd condemn him for it but i think he is genuine and deserves a break


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« Reply #94 on: October 17, 2009, 16:23:36 »

You can take offence if you like but you have to view these things in context...i'd give him the benefit of the doubt and say he was a kid who had too much to drink...courtesy of a club night called Carnage which makes thousands out of giving young people far more booze than they can handle...and made a stupid mistake..no doubt he feels very badly about it now and has to live with what he did for the next few months until people find something else to be outraged by....if i thought for one minute he meant real disrespect i'd condemn him for it but i think he is genuine and deserves a break


 for the record i'm not a wooly liberal and my father fought in WW2 and my grandfather in WW1...i always observe 11th Nov and never fail to shed a tear for those young men who when asked didn't question why,they just went.


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Goodness knows I've done some stupid things under the influence, including pissing on things, just in my case it didn't happen to be a war memorial. If he had done whilst sober / made a statement justifying his actions the next day / had a track record for specifically targetting war memorials, then MAYBE the lynch mob would have some justification.

The fact is, he was drunk and more likely than not regrets very much ever doing what he did.
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You can take offence if you like but you have to view these things in context...i'd give him the benefit of the doubt and say he was a kid who had too much to drink...courtesy of a club night called Carnage which makes thousands out of giving young people far more booze than they can handle...and made a stupid mistake..no doubt he feels very badly about it now and has to live with what he did for the next few months until people find something else to be outraged by....if i thought for one minute he meant real disrespect i'd condemn him for it but i think he is genuine and deserves a break


 for the record i'm not a wooly liberal and my father fought in WW2 and my grandfather in WW1...i always observe 11th Nov and never fail to shed a tear for those young men who when asked didn't question why,they just went.

Steve rice sums it up perfectly here. Hijack does seem to take the moral highground a bit so it's nice to read something that isn't full of righteous hyperbole.

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« Reply #96 on: October 18, 2009, 10:40:42 »


You can take offence if you like but you have to view these things in context...i'd give him the benefit of the doubt and say he was a kid who had too much to drink...courtesy of a club night called Carnage which makes thousands out of giving young people far more booze than they can handle...and made a stupid mistake..no doubt he feels very badly about it now and has to live with what he did for the next few months until people find something else to be outraged by....if i thought for one minute he meant real disrespect i'd condemn him for it but i think he is genuine and deserves a break


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No, because I dare say that the field you pissed in, didn't have a concrete plinth, stating that it was a war memorial and wreathes of poppies around it. If it did, you are a horrible human being.

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« Reply #97 on: October 18, 2009, 11:14:58 »


You can take offence if you like but you have to view these things in context...i'd give him the benefit of the doubt and say he was a kid who had too much to drink...courtesy of a club night called Carnage which makes thousands out of giving young people far more booze than they can handle...and made a stupid mistake..no doubt he feels very badly about it now and has to live with what he did for the next few months until people find something else to be outraged by....if i thought for one minute he meant real disrespect i'd condemn him for it but i think he is genuine and deserves a break


 for the record i'm not a wooly liberal and my father fought in WW2 and my grandfather in WW1...i always observe 11th Nov and never fail to shed a tear for those young men who when asked didn't question why,they just went.
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No, because I dare say that the field you pissed in, didn't have a concrete plinth, stating that it was a war memorial and wreathes of poppies around it. If it did, you are a horrible human being.

You have to look at things in context.

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« Reply #98 on: November 26, 2009, 15:33:47 »

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20091126/tuk-student-sentenced-for-war-memorial-o-45dbed5.html

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« Reply #99 on: November 26, 2009, 15:37:28 »

I hope part of that community service involves getting Hoozami'd on by a load of soldiers of all ages
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« Reply #100 on: November 26, 2009, 15:44:17 »

I actually feel quite sorry for him now - he's obviously very remorseful, and it must be terrible getting in shit for something you can't remember doing!
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« Reply #101 on: November 26, 2009, 15:50:22 »

I don't see anything wrong with it to be honest.

You're so edgy. Roll Eyes

Oh come on Evs I'm not saying this for effect! I GENUINELY don't see a problem with it, I see it as any other statue or landmark....I can't stand war memorials and poppies....it's just glorification of war in my opinion.


I didnt see this before. But Fuck off.

People died so you can have your pathetic contrary-for-the-sake-of-it bullshit opinions and pissing on a memorial commemorating this is a complete lack of respect (This isnt the same as forcing public figures to wear poppies this is just next level fuckry). I am sure if you dont like war so much at the time you would have backed the policy of appeasing the people brutally and systematically slaughetering millions of people, who given the chance would have taken the freedoms of everyone.

Then again, somone being pissed makes a mistakes and everyone regrets a lot of stuff they do when drunk.

 
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« Reply #102 on: November 26, 2009, 16:03:15 »

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« Reply #105 on: November 26, 2009, 17:04:56 »

Oh, this again...   Roll Eyes

I can accept being angry with him about the fact he is pissing in public, yeah, not the greatest of things. If however he was pissing on the memorial in broad daylight, whilst sober shouting insults at the soldiers who fought, maybe people would have grounds for getting all pissy (not the best choice of words) about him being 'disrespectful'.

How many of the people who are 'up in arms' about it regularly buy a poppy, regularly visit war memorials, always lay wreaths etc.etc. ?

I appreciate the fact people in the past have taken action that has help preserve certain freedoms we have today - but some of the hate and vitirol I've seen directed towards this bloke is far more disgusting than what he mistakenly, drunkenly, and apologised to the nation for doing.

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« Reply #106 on: November 26, 2009, 17:07:01 »

Can't we just elecrify war memorials?
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« Reply #107 on: November 26, 2009, 17:21:07 »

Oh, this again...   Roll Eyes

I can accept being angry with him about the fact he is pissing in public, yeah, not the greatest of things. If however he was pissing on the memorial in broad daylight, whilst sober shouting insults at the soldiers who fought, maybe people would have grounds for getting all pissy (not the best choice of words) about him being 'disrespectful'.

How many of the people who are 'up in arms' about it regularly buy a poppy, regularly visit war memorials, always lay wreaths etc.etc. ?

I appreciate the fact people in the past have taken action that has help preserve certain freedoms we have today - but some of the hate and vitirol I've seen directed towards this bloke is far more disgusting than what he mistakenly, drunkenly, and apologised to the nation for doing.

IMO of course...

clearly everyone is going over the top with way this guy is getting shouted down, but i was more just saying its all well and good being 'anit-war' but stuff like the world wars were unavoidable to fight in at the time and pretty fucking important for the freedoms we have today.
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« Reply #108 on: November 27, 2009, 16:27:17 »

but some of the hate and vitirol I've seen directed towards this bloke is far more disgusting than what he mistakenly, drunkenly, and apologised to the nation for doing.

IMO of course...

Humans love to hate and love to gang up on others a part of our nature I guess.  It was dumb but a lot of students are Wink  I doubt it had much to do with him not agreeing to any war after the fawklands and possibly the first Iraq war like many of us.  The public in general don't seem to recognise those who have fallen in the wars since on rememberance day tho so guess its all good Wink
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« Reply #109 on: November 27, 2009, 16:33:22 »

What I wanna know is how many of the middle aged daily mail reading inbreds who complained about this have, at least once, gotten caught short on the way back from the pub and completely forgotten that they'd nipped behind a war memorial for a slash to avoid pissing their pants? I'd go as far as betting a million billions pounds that his piss was not the first human piss to splash down on those stones, not by a long shot. Just the first to be photographed. People who are "disgusted" by stuff they see in the media are always oblivious to the fact that it goes on unnoticed all around them every fucking day.
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« Reply #110 on: November 28, 2009, 10:27:44 »

What I wanna know is how many of the middle aged daily mail reading inbreds who complained about this have, at least once, gotten caught short on the way back from the pub and completely forgotten that they'd nipped behind a war memorial for a slash to avoid pissing their pants? I'd go as far as betting a million billions pounds that his piss was not the first human piss to splash down on those stones, not by a long shot. Just the first to be photographed. People who are "disgusted" by stuff they see in the media are always oblivious to the fact that it goes on unnoticed all around them every fucking day.

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« Reply #111 on: December 11, 2009, 13:15:21 »

Someone else has done it!

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20091211/tuk-yob-caught-on-cctv-urinating-at-war-45dbed5.html

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« Reply #112 on: December 11, 2009, 13:19:11 »

I like how they say "unemployed chef". No, you're just unemployed mate. By that logic I'm still a teenager.
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« Reply #113 on: November 13, 2017, 17:02:34 »

Punksi strikes again

http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/man-arrested-urinating-bristols-war-764138

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« Reply #114 on: July 11, 2018, 08:48:37 »

A great example of the diverse views this board had.  Roll Eyes

A full apology at the Remembrance Sunday ceremony would be a good start at showing how "deeply ashamed" he is.
Fucking cunt.

I don't see anything wrong with it to be honest.
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