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Logic - 21 (29.6%)
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Sonar - 1 (1.4%)
Fruityloops - 3 (4.2%)
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What sequencer are you using these days?

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« on: November 15, 2005, 10:48:12 »

I started off rocking the almighty Octamed on an Amiga 500 using a disk full of samples (which was also strangely the time where I made the most music  Embarrassed) but when I got my first PC it was straight onto Cubase. Recently had a flirtation with Logic 7 on the Mac before settling for Ableton Live, just because it's so quick and easy to get ideas down. So, I've been around the houses somewhat. What about yourselves?  Huh
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« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2005, 10:51:29 »

Using SX only cuz I couldnt be bothered with the learning curve of taking on Logic when I switched over from Cubase 5...

kinda wish I did now, as i kno Logic is much better...

Keen on having a look at abelton and Logic soon.... Could do with sitting down for an hour or so with someone who uses Logic on a regular basis  Perv, mmmhmmm, yummy *rubs hands*
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« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2005, 11:12:29 »

Acid, rewired with reason plus loads of plugins. It does have limitations but it also has a lot of freedom and I find it was not only easy to learn but I can work quickly in it as well..
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« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2005, 11:47:25 »

Im at City of Bristol using Logic 7 daily. I need to get a job so I can get a Mac with a copy of Logic because that would be the shit but considering I only  have about £50 in my bank looks like I'll have to keep waiting... Cry
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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2005, 11:58:01 »

Bugger... I stupidly forgot to add Reason and Orion to the list.  Embarrassed
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« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2005, 11:58:34 »

Logic baby.
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Im suprised there isnt a Reason option, id think a few heads would use that, even if they do bounce out.
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« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2005, 11:58:52 »

Bugger... I stupidly forgot to add Reason and Orion to the list. Embarrassed

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« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2005, 11:59:34 »

and Acid  Wink
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« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2005, 12:00:43 »

I use logic, my mpc or buzz when I do computer music (which hasn't been for a while...  Cry)
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« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2005, 12:01:19 »

and Acid  Wink

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« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2005, 12:06:54 »

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« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2005, 17:13:57 »

renoise is my main one at the moment. used to use logic a lot but not so much anymore, my mac isn't up to running logic on OSX. supercollider for programmy / synthesis / generative  stuff. cubase on the atari!
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« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2005, 13:08:59 »

I started off with Fast Tracker 2 back in the days of DOS.

I've been though Cubase but decided that there was too much choice of VSTs and other plugins that I spent all of my time trying to get good sounds rather than actually writing any music.

I've now settled on Reason as my perfect composition environment.  The only thing I dislike about it is the lack of being able to change tempos or time signatures within a track because I love working with complex timings occasionally.

Ableton for adding real instruments and vocals.
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« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2005, 13:19:59 »

I've now settled on Reason as my perfect composition environment.  The only thing I dislike about it is the lack of being able to change tempos or time signatures within a track because I love working with complex timings occasionally.

If you rewired it with acid you could use acid to force reason to change time signatures and tempo - even if you used it for nothing else..
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« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2005, 16:12:43 »

I started off with Fast Tracker 2 back in the days of DOS.

FT2 was ace. a perfect music package for the time.
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« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2005, 16:16:59 »

I started off with Fast Tracker 2 back in the days of DOS.

FT2 was ace. a perfect music package for the time.

I know an pro-producer who still uses it as his primary sequencer Cheesy

I really miss its ease of use as a sampler though.
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« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2005, 16:36:09 »

really?!!! mind you vsnares uses octamed still apparently.  its great, but i wouldn't use it now, cos the dithering and interpolation sounds grimey compared to anything now. triton should really open-source it, then someone could rewrite it with the DSP improved. and add a couple of extra levels to the "nibbles" game built in!
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« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2005, 16:37:16 »


I really miss its ease of use as a sampler though.

get renoise then! 49 EUR, proper tracker interface, except it does VST, automation, ASIO, midi, the worx.
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« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2005, 09:26:40 »

I be mostly using pro Tools. (Mbox)

Version 7 just came out. A great combo with the MBox 2 which has MIDI. Yay!
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« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2005, 16:37:27 »

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« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2005, 19:05:40 »

used to use cubase on the atari. Then acid + fruity loops along with a roland mc 303 and an akai s20, then came to uni and stopped  Doh!
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« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2005, 12:11:59 »

Logic 7 pro is the don. Thats what I use.  I had to upgrade to a mac a couple of years ago when logic was bought out. Expensive but well worth it.  I think you will find most top bods will use logic, pro tools or maybe cubase...

Having said that it depends on what you are using it for. Im using it to write tracks that get signed ie more of a potential career than a hobby...not that im a top bod - yet!! Wink

I know a lot of people who use Reason, which for a certain standard is good, but personally i think you can tell a Reason production from how it sounds..

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« Reply #23 on: November 24, 2005, 21:06:31 »

nuendo and protools  wot more do u need!
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« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2005, 22:34:24 »

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« Reply #25 on: November 29, 2005, 21:45:59 »

i like ableton for speed of use and versatility

i like logic because it slows me down to actually write tunes and when rewiring ableton thru it sounds beef

i like pro tools cos it sounds beef
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« Reply #26 on: November 30, 2005, 17:14:52 »

Used to use cubase sx3 but very rarely now cos it totally mulches my cpu and chews it to pieces

now i use ableton, much more computer friendly
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« Reply #27 on: November 30, 2005, 20:50:20 »

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« Reply #28 on: December 17, 2005, 18:26:18 »

Just ordered logic pro, got it through uni for £270.  At the moment I am using Ableton but I am finding it annoyingly slow on my Dual 2.0 G5 and I used to use logic loads so it won't be too hard to slip back into it.   I've been practising on logic express in the meantime and you can pretty much do some similar stuff as ableton if you use the apple loops format and soundtrack loop utility.  I'll still be rewiring ableton though, simply for the timestretching madness thats always handy when making wierd noises.  But best of all I jsut connect my housemates G5 up and enable xgrid and I can use his processors as extra DSP hardware to run all those space designers etc etc.
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« Reply #29 on: January 16, 2006, 14:41:58 »

does it really matter, different programs for different things, I dont know why people say logic is the best. Logic is just as good as everything else its just advertised more. Its a bitch to get automation done with it and assigning midi controllers is a bitch as well. Cubase sx3 and albeton for the creative stage, protools for the production.

I guess people use logic because it is a complete package, but there are alot better pieces of software out there like the NI samplers. But hey use what ever you like to make music.

this is always like the mac pc debate point less  Doh!
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« Reply #30 on: January 16, 2006, 16:37:14 »

Its a bitch to get automation done with it and assigning midi controllers is a bitch as well.

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« Reply #31 on: January 24, 2006, 11:53:39 »

Logic Pro 7 has got it all, theres no reason to use anything else unless its hardware, as its got brilliant midi editing, the soft synths that come with it are fairly awesome, and the amount of them is pleasing! As someone has already mentioned, the EXS24 is blinding. I usually chop and change betwwe Logicpro7 and Pro Tools HD 7 just because of the plug ins I have got for PT are amazing, and use the DSP racks.

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« Reply #32 on: January 24, 2006, 11:59:18 »

oh, and what are you talking about 'the automation is crap'. Mate, are we talking about the same program here? Its famed for its automation, not even pro tools has got it down like Logic. You can see all of the different parameters you have drawn automation for in a track like format, also the curves are amazing adn spllit second to create. You should have a go at version 6 or 7 and I think you will be surprised.

I studio on cubase for a year, and it was awful, not mention sounds shocking. Admittidly, there are other programs that are built for specific purposes, ie the NI samplers etc, but nothing comes close at the moment.

A mixture of Pro Tools and Logic 7 with things like meleodyne/beat detective and sound replacer and you can pretty much do anything you like.

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« Reply #33 on: January 24, 2006, 15:56:31 »

oh, and what are you talking about 'the automation is crap'. Mate, are we talking about the same program here? Its famed for its automation, not even pro tools has got it down like Logic. You can see all of the different parameters you have drawn automation for in a track like format, also the curves are amazing adn spllit second to create. You should have a go at version 6 or 7 and I think you will be surprised.

I studio on cubase for a year, and it was awful, not mention sounds shocking. Admittidly, there are other programs that are built for specific purposes, ie the NI samplers etc, but nothing comes close at the moment.

A mixture of Pro Tools and Logic 7 with things like meleodyne/beat detective and sound replacer and you can pretty much do anything you like.


problem with logic is the resolution of the automation is not as high as pro tools,  you can do sound design with automation like you can with protools.
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« Reply #34 on: February 20, 2006, 14:36:00 »

Recently had a flirtation with Logic 7 on the Mac before settling for Ableton Live, just because it's so quick and easy to get ideas down.
I also used octamed... 8 channels was the shizzle at the time.

Now I use logic 5.5 as I don't have a Mac. Is there much difference between 5.5 and 7?
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« Reply #35 on: February 21, 2006, 18:40:38 »

A mixture of Pro Tools, Reason and the MPC.

Mainly Pro Tools, though. Can't believe you missed that one on the poll!
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« Reply #36 on: February 21, 2006, 23:07:42 »

i hate pro tools.. it just pisses me off...
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« Reply #37 on: February 28, 2006, 14:14:42 »

Spend no money - that's my policy! I only use software that's free or on the cover of Computer Music mag and the only bit of kit I have that cost any money was the PC itself.
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« Reply #38 on: March 08, 2006, 18:21:46 »

when i was doing music tech, i used logic exclusively. wrote my final album project in it. it's steady as a rock, sounds great, the integrated vst effects/instruments are superb and it's quality to use.

after a year long break from writing music though, i now use cubase and native instruments shizzle. mainly cos i relocated to the US and had to get rid of all my equipment. i;m slowly building my studio back up tho. couldn't justify being at uni and buying a mac laptop when i could buy a beastly pc laptop for less dollar. add to that the 'availability' of software for pc and you're onto a winner. i am starting to buy software again, but it's a slow, expensive process, so in the meantime i'm gonna chill. torrent anyone? Bad Teeth
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« Reply #40 on: March 11, 2006, 21:16:44 »

The Space Designer reverb unit in Logic Pro 7 is dope!  Althoug all the reverb times are a little too long for use and need changing.

I love logic, the plugins are all so good, and the interface is nice too use. 

I want to learn Pro Tools though, cos it seems like most professional studios use that, especially in the big media organisations. 
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« Reply #41 on: June 24, 2006, 00:02:38 »

I used to use Logic Pro 6 for pretty much eveything.. but then I lost my dongle  Doh! I got a bit stuck in the EXS24 rut though, so wasn't being too creative, so maybe it's a blessing in disguise. The 'matrix' edit in it is still my favourite midi editor. I've got a crack of 7 now, but without EXS24..

I use Protools for most stuff now, mainly because the audio editing features kick eveything else into next week.. I know it's got midi, but I don't like that side of it particularly - Bits of it's midi features are great, don't get me wrong, but the velocity editing is wack. I also miss having a sampler like EXS24, apparantly Kontakt is awsome, but a crack for os x seems unforthcoming (any help?). I don't find it very inspiring to write with though.. but then I don't really find any software too inspiring. It's great if you already know what track you're making, or already have audio as a start point.

I love writing beats in Renoise, but find doing melody/harmony a bit retarded in the tracker style. Apparently the next version will have piano roll..? It's becoming the Fruity Loops of trackers or something, all hail to that.

What I really want is a hybrid of Protools, Logic's midi, Renoise, all mangled up in an open max/msp architecture. Hmm. Nice dream. Either that or a stupidly fast computer that lets me run it all at once in synch, with about 5 monitors.

Bah, computers are useful tools, but not too inspiring. Hardware should come back. But cheap.
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« Reply #42 on: October 18, 2006, 11:55:22 »

I started off rocking the almighty Octamed on an Amiga 500 using a disk full of samples (which was also strangely the time where I made the most music  Embarrassed) but when I got my first PC it was straight onto Cubase. Recently had a flirtation with Logic 7 on the Mac before settling for Ableton Live, just because it's so quick and easy to get ideas down. So, I've been around the houses somewhat. What about yourselves?  Huh

started of on atari st and 4 track then real to real 8 track haha then a mac all with cubase notator at one point! then g4 mac running the first logic and reason and carried on with logic and reason switched to pc but those ASS holes as apple mac bought e magic out didnt they! so i carried on with logic 5.5 and reason untill the point where i switched back to cubase sx3 so using that and reason atm mainly using sx 3 as its a bad ass sequencer!

god couldnt have some other blinking company bought e magic! that would have been more usefull what a bunch of illetist ass holes apple mac are!  Bad Teeth
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« Reply #43 on: October 20, 2006, 12:18:28 »

I use fruity loops ... never used anything else ... am I missing anything essential!?
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« Reply #44 on: October 23, 2006, 21:21:51 »

I'm using Live to catch quickly what's turning in my head then I open it in Logic. Ableton live is awsome to draw a rough of your track but i'm not really happy about sound quality and send return situation. Logic for that is the perfect tool.
Anyway, i would like to have my fingers on pro tools in the future.
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« Reply #45 on: November 16, 2006, 01:26:18 »

Dunno why, but I'm surprised to see so many Logic users!  Pleasantly surprised.  Logic is amazing  Slayer

I started with Cubase on an old Atari 1040 STE with an old FM keyboard, then Cubase VST on a PC.  Got really into Sibelius at one point, and also Fruityloops.  I would try to combine the results on a 4-track.  It never really worked that well.  I made the jump from Cubase to Logic at uni, and carried on with 5.5 for ages and ages until one day I finally had enough of my PC and bought a mac with Logic 7.

Probably stick with Logic for now as it does everything I want it to do.  I reckon the next step for me would be Max, but I really can't be arsed learning it.  Maybe when there's more time...
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« Reply #46 on: November 21, 2006, 22:22:26 »

I use fruity loops ... never used anything else ... am I missing anything essential!?

Common sense?  Bad Teeth

Nah horses for courses. If it suits you and you're able to make music sound the way you want it to sound then why bother changing? Thats why I'm all Cubase-d up and refuse to even consider that Logic might even be slightly better than it.
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« Reply #47 on: November 22, 2006, 11:32:59 »

I use fruity loops ... never used anything else ... am I missing anything essential!?

Common sense?  Bad Teeth.

 Doh! .. let me paraphrase the question then! how cool is it to use FL Studio?!  Bad Teeth
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« Reply #48 on: November 22, 2006, 17:46:03 »

I started off using Acid back in the day, but having spent a horrific proportion of my life fixing pc's I've now migrated to running Logic and Ableton on a Mac. It's quite odd running a machine that doesn't crash once a day.
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« Reply #49 on: December 20, 2006, 16:42:18 »


What I really want is a hybrid of Protools, Logic's midi, Renoise, all mangled up in an open max/msp architecture. Hmm. Nice dream. Either that or a stupidly fast computer that lets me run it all at once in synch, with about 5 monitors.


I use logic and pro tools - I want the hybrid too. pro tools audio - logics midi - it will never happen tho Angry
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