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« on: April 05, 2011, 14:34:29 »

I need them to be 300-400 euro (around 300 pounds i guess?).
I need them to be as perfect as can be for that price. My big love for music has always been a dominating subbass (60-200hz) and alot of percussion. That's what I want to make and I need the perfect monitors for that.

EDIT: I have been looking for the KRK's, they looked good at first, but then I heard they werent any good for 50/60hz.
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« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2011, 19:20:39 »

If you want sub bass, you'll need a sub as well. No monitor at that price is going to give you the low end you are looking for. Get some KRK's as they are pretty fine, then save for a sub.
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« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2011, 08:01:15 »

What he said, except Yamaha MSP5s > KRK 6s. imo, bitches.
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« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2011, 08:39:18 »

Acoustic Energy AE22s (actives). Don't bother with cheaper monitors, save up and get something decent. They aren't the bassiest of speaker, but you can get a sub if you really need it. But not recommended if you have close neighbours!

http://www.acoustic-energy.co.uk/Default.aspx?pagename=Pro-AE22-Active-loudspeaker

Alternatively I've read good things about the Blue Sky media desk system.
http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/product/6738-blue-sky-media-desk-2-1-system.html/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=base
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« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2011, 09:00:06 »

Don't bother with cheaper monitors, save up and get something decent.

Due respect, but BS. There are successful producers who mix entirely on battered old hi-fi speakers that they bring with them in preference over the Genelecs in the studio they're using (granted they are few and far between but they exist). Its about what works for you, what you understand and what you're used to. Obviously you need to do some checking on high end monitors but where do you stop? That 600 speaker doesn't show you what that 1500 speaker shows you which in turn doesn't show you what the 5000 speaker shows you.... This is what mastering engineers are for.

edit: Also, its a parallel world you're living in if you think 300 is cheap for a pair of speakers you plan to use in your house for your amateur music making exploits.
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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2011, 09:54:48 »

So based on your theory, you might as well just buy some 5 earbuds then?

If you don't value the music you make or listen to, then yes, don't spend money on equipment and instead piss it up the wall whilst you give away your music for free.

I have had 300 monitors for around 10 years. I then upgraded to something much better and I wish I had done it sooner. The AE22s are probably the best sub 1000 speaker and punch above their weight.

Your argument becomes pointless when you state:

Obviously you need to do some checking on high end monitors



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« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2011, 10:18:38 »

So based on your theory, you might as well just buy some 5 earbuds then?

If you don't value the music you make or listen to, then yes, don't spend money on equipment and instead piss it up the wall whilst you give away your music for free.

I have had 300 monitors for around 10 years. I then upgraded to something much better and I wish I had done it sooner. The AE22s are probably the best sub 1000 speaker and punch above their weight.

Your argument becomes pointless when you state:

Obviously you need to do some checking on high end monitors





My point is that near-as-damnit-perfect results can be achieved on a 200-300 pair of monitors, which will also suffice for "high end checking" if you get reputable ones (i.e. not M-Audio or Behringer ones imo). Yes, you will probably find it easier to mix on something better (not necessarily more expensive though  Wink ) but imo one needs a lot of experience to really take advantage of the extra clarity you get from breaking the 1000 barrier. I honestly think you don't need to throw more than Rokit 6s or MSP5s at a home production setup. imo.
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« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2011, 12:57:25 »

I reckon you are both right. High quality monitors makes the listening experience more enjoyable and more clear and will (some exceptions aside) improve your mixdowns, but the majority of folks won't use the extra clarity. This chap aint asking about 1k monitors though is he?

I would recommend Alesis MkII for clarity and add a sub if you really need to. If they are good enough for autechre they are good enough for you.
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« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2011, 13:07:14 »

Hey guys, thanks for the replies. A sub sounds like a good idea in addition to some KrK's, I need to work more overtime *sigh*. And guys I WISH I had a 1000 pounds for speakers but I dont, and I wont have it within the next couple of years (I am going to college for 4 years). So Krk 6's (or the yamaha's) and a proper sub then I suppose? And uh... fuck the neighboors Tomato Slayer!
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« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2011, 13:51:08 »

re: choosing between Yamahas and KRKs, you want to pop down to a shop that has both and get them to play a track in the style you favour on both so you can compare. Some people make the choice based on what sounds nicest, which is a good way to go, but I tend to make the choice based on what sounds flattest/clearest (in general terms, the ones that expose the flaws of the mix more openly as opposed to making it sound "nice"). You're not going to get a properly "honest" monitor in this price range but I'd still be inclined to choose honesty over nice-ness however slim the difference is.
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« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2011, 13:55:21 »

Acoustic Energy AE22s (actives). Don't bother with cheaper monitors, save up and get something decent. They aren't the bassiest of speaker, but you can get a sub if you really need it. But not recommended if you have close neighbours!

http://www.acoustic-energy.co.uk/Default.aspx?pagename=Pro-AE22-Active-loudspeaker

Astonishing monitors for the money, see them cropping up as 'b monitors'/references in an increasing amount of good studios - Phil Ward who designed them is a top bloke who seriously knows his shiz.

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