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« on: November 02, 2010, 01:57:25 »

Trying to develop my own set of Kick drum samples but having a few eq-ing issues.

I'm aiming for quite a heavy drum n' bass kick similar to DaVIP or Skrillex, ie. Loads of whack, plenty of low end and slightly filtered tail.

anybody know how to do that? Do i need envelopes? What sample packs have stuff like that in. Hope you can help.  :twothumbs:RRH
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« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2010, 09:26:53 »

are you synthesizing from scratch or starting with samples? you will need envelopes, one for the filter as well as volume if you want a filtered tail

you could try stomper on windows http://www.lysator.liu.se/~zap/stomper/index2.html & tweak some of the examples or try making your own
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« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2010, 16:02:15 »

kick drums will have 2 frequencies you want to boost with EQ - the sub boom and the higher frequency slap. Around like 80hz and 120-200hz.

What is your sound source? Synthesised kicks don't work as well for dnb, well maybe the new techy shit but meh, so best to get clean samples. Layering samples will be a good way to get the phatter sound and is typical of drum n bass break construction. Try putting a sin sub tone underneath your natural kick, compress all the layers together and ensure your sub mix is not overpowering and the frequency is given space in your overall mix by notching out it from the bassline.
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« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2010, 16:20:17 »

80hz and 120-200hz.


I find a single bell curve centred around 120-150 can cover both these elements well, and leaves an extra EQ band available for whatever else. Useful if you're sampling a kick as you get an extra band left over for taking out any hi-hats and whatnot that are present over the sample.
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« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2010, 20:40:04 »

80hz and 120-200hz.


I find a single bell curve centred around 120-150 can cover both these elements well, and leaves an extra EQ band available for whatever else. Useful if you're sampling a kick as you get an extra band left over for taking out any hi-hats and whatnot that are present over the sample.

will have a play. Depending on the style of kick i'd go for a bit more sub, tho more dnb jungle kicks have less emphasis lower down than say techno.

I meant more though that the natural kick sound has two parts to it, the slap off the skin and the boomy sub tone. So when thinknig about constructing a kick these are areas you need to thnik about. When creating synthesised kick tones with a sin wave, opening the attack will lose that slap element altogether for a more house/techno style kick with just 'doof' sub tone. For dnb though you want that slap and sub so need to think about both parts and more liekly use a natural kcik sample, layered with other kicks or sub tones to beef it up.
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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2010, 16:54:39 »

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