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« on: January 06, 2006, 13:24:25 »

Anyone got it or used it? Whats your views on it? Worth the money........?
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« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2006, 13:37:24 »

Final Scratch 2 is loads better that the first version (waaaaaay more stable) and works a treat. Definitely worth the $$$ if you don't have a fortune to shell out on records. You'll need a fairly decent PC to run it on though. You might also want to consider Rane Serato...
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« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2006, 18:53:20 »

. You might also want to consider Rane Serato...

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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2006, 20:23:12 »

I've just started using Final Scratch 2 and I can hightly recommend it.   It was a piece of cake to set up and I have had no problems at all with the software or the scratch amp. 

I had the full version on Traktor for Christmas and it helps take it to the next level.  There are some good effects built in, including the Allen & Heath filters which is pretty cool.  I also really like the loop function which is dead handy for extending intros or dropping vocal loops etc.





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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2006, 20:32:19 »

I would say it's definately worth the money.  I was, before I got FS, using two technics and two pioneer cdj1000s and a variety of vinyl and cd.  I swapped one of my cdj's for FS through 'whybuynew' and I'm going to flog the other to put towards a laptop.  Using FS means you can don't have to change your mixing technique as it's exactly the same as using vinyl.  Of course you could sell your technics and use cd decks as FS is compatable with cd's too.

Although I'm yet to you it in a club as I don't have a laptop yet, the main benefit is the fact that you can take 1000's of tunes with you without breaking your back lugging a couple of bags of tunes.  This will be especially handy if you don't know what the person before you is going to be playing.  The bundled software makes it really easy to search through your collection so theres no fumbling around in the dark trying to find records!!

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« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2006, 04:30:16 »

Does anyone know if Final Scratch 2 is usable like a full MIDI controler ? Or does it have to be used only with the FS  software ?

I would like to try scratching video (and then have sound and visual synchronised) using Arkaos software..

If anybody can help me...
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« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2006, 12:38:13 »

I'm not very technically minded at all, but there are two midi inputs on the FS 2 scratch amps.  I've not used them myself but according to the Traktor user manual you can use assign keys etc to a midi controller to control the software instead of having to use a mouse the whole time.

Not a very full answer I know, you will probably find out more for either; a) someone wo has had FS longer then me and who is a bit more technically minded or b) the Native Instruments website :

Traktor - http://www.native-instruments.com/index.php?id=traktor_us&ftu=f1c41c3e03
FS2 - http://www.native-instruments.com/index.php?id=finalscratch2_us

Hope there is something useful there.
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« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2006, 13:11:32 »

If your gonna get one i'd reccomend the rane version, scratch serrato live or something, i used it at beans's house and it's on point, even for cuts like uzi's etc, theres no time delay..
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« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2006, 14:32:00 »

, i used it at beans's house

 Huh

Different bean? How many of us are there?
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« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2006, 15:59:19 »

The new version of Traktor is definitely worth looking at, its got a virtual xone 92 on it, so basically a laptop running this software can take the place of 4 cd decks in your setup, looping also means you can do cycloops style re-edits on the fly.

Though I haven't used it, I understand that Final Scratch is an interface for beat matching etc in Traktor, which can also be done with the mouse, keyboard or assigned midi controller. If your gonna buy final scratch, basically what your paying for is a means of controlling digital audio via an interface your already comfortable with. IMO in most cases you can get exactly the same results without forking out for Final Scratch, and just buying Traktor on its own. It will take a while to get used to beat matching on a new interface, but on the plus side you'll be able to rock up to a gig and just plug your laptop straight into the mixer and play out, without having to arse around rewiring everything.

If your gonna be scratching in your sets then what I've said isn't really relevant, as clearly a vinyl interface is what you want for realistic scratch emulations, not a mouse or buttons on a keyboard!!!
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« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2006, 16:50:07 »

Does anyone know if Final Scratch 2 is usable like a full MIDI controler ? Or does it have to be used only with the FS  software ?

I would like to try scratching video (and then have sound and visual synchronised) using Arkaos software..

If anybody can help me...

I dunno if there's an API for final scratch - i wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't cos they clearly spent a lot of money developing it and they don't want to let their secrets out..

BUUT..

http://www.mspinky.com/WreckedSystem_RecordSignal.html

this will be the thing to use. you could

a) knock up a VJ patch in Max/Jitter (lots of work)
b) knock up a mspinky -> midi bridge in Max and loop it back into Archaos.
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« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2006, 20:00:55 »

Usefull infos thanks, I definitely want to include real video scratching in my sets..

Will study all the ways to do it, but mspinky could be the best option ! thx

Will also try some midi gloves, even if I'll look like a robot, could be quite exciting ! Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2006, 16:43:21 »

I love my FS2.

Taken it to various clubs/parties and it hasnt let me down yet.

I've recorded alot of my recent vinyl now and I cant tell the difference in sound either in my studio or on a huge rig, treble is accurate and sub is perfect.

You cant use it as a standalone vinyl midi controller but you can use it as a firewire 6-in 4-out soundcard with programs such as ableton or whatever.
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« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2006, 18:49:09 »

, i used it at beans's house

 Huh

Different bean? How many of us are there?


Is that you steve?
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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2006, 18:54:47 »

, i used it at beans's house

 Huh

Different bean? How many of us are there?


Is that you steve?

Nope

It's me Charles
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« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2006, 22:46:57 »

finding records is half the fun
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« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2006, 11:36:33 »

, i used it at beans's house

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Different bean? How many of us are there?


Is that you steve?

Nope

It's me Charles

Right. Surely you know beans? sir beans? O.B.E??
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« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2006, 19:44:25 »

Not personally but yes, I've seen him a couple of times, not recently though. Is he using Serato when he plays out?
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