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« on: January 03, 2006, 17:13:53 »

i'm about to get me a mini mac as for the first time in as long as i can remember i have money
obviously the soundcard with it is good as non-existent.
so i need some recommendations on a decent audio interface and setup. my budget is probably 200 tops (ok not that much money then)
it is mostly for ableton live work and some sequencing
any suggestions?
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« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2006, 22:53:40 »

for an extra 39, digital village will sell you a m-audio firewire 410 which is lush!! As for the Mac Mini, where are buying it from?
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« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2006, 10:02:12 »

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the above is a good un. Alternatively you could go for the Edirol FA101 - 10 x 10 interface - bit more expensive though

http://www.dv247.com/invt/20611   -   could probably get one cheaper than the dv price, if ya look around though
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« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2006, 11:57:07 »

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the above is a good un. Alternatively you could go for the Edirol FA101 - 10 x 10 interface - bit more expensive though

http://www.dv247.com/invt/20611   -   could probably get one cheaper than the dv price, if ya look around though

was looking at the edirol myself. good features, good price but have heard that the preamps aren't up to much. have i been misinformed? what's the diagnosis dr?
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« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2006, 12:49:33 »

mmm, i cant really be sure - haven't heard it in comparison...

Both Jack and Sam have got one - probably worth asking em what they think (sams only just bought one though, jacks had his for a while)....   but if i was planning on getting one i'd be wary of this

m-audio would be more reliable in this field imo, and i must say my FW410 sounds bloody gorgeous!
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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2006, 12:58:19 »

hmmm.. preamps...



you mean you want noise for OUTSIDE your laptop!?!?!?!!!!


i suppose that i need to do that sometimes.. but only for garage vocals..
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« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2006, 19:41:07 »

 Smiley ta very much. i not entirely sure where im gettin the mini mac from yet (greasy student though so must be some kind of pity handout (i mean student discount) somewhere on the net).
the edirol looks a bit too pricy for my mean budget, might go for the m-audio
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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2006, 11:09:19 »

Smiley ta very much. i not entirely sure where im gettin the mini mac from yet (greasy student though so must be some kind of pity handout (i mean student discount) somewhere on the net).
the edirol looks a bit too pricy for my mean budget, might go for the m-audio

whatever you do make sure you wait til the end of next week.   Mac Minis and the laptops are gonna be significantly upgraded.   Not only will they be much faster but they are switching to new intel chips which means future software will not be compatible if you buy one of the powerpc based ones.  Seriously buying a mac before these new ones come out is as good as throwing your money away.  The first couple of months you will need to use the built in emulator while all the software gets ported over but with the difference in speed between a G4 (really is a very slow crap chip) and the new intel yonahs will  mean that it will still be faster even in emulation mode.   Keep an eye on apple.com as of monday next week and also www.macrumors.com is good place to find out whats happening.  There's a good chance they will be cheaper too.

If you want a student discount you can get a big one if you go to your uni and enter www.apple.com/ukstore then click on education then click on the first link which says something like "only accessible from inside the uni's network" then you can get massive student discounts, but you have to be a uni network.

As for the M-Audio firewire 410 it is a bargain and I have used one since they were very first announced with great success,  I highly recommend it.
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« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2006, 18:21:51 »

Yo, i work at the Mac shop and the upgrades are not confirmed. At best the UK will see them late Spring/Early Summer.

Also, I can knock a few quid off a Mac Mini for ya seein as your a student bum Cheesy

I'll b there tomorrow from about ten, our number is 01179 225661
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« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2006, 12:51:37 »

Yo, i work at the Mac shop and the upgrades are not confirmed. At best the UK will see them late Spring/Early Summer.

Also, I can knock a few quid off a Mac Mini for ya seein as your a student bum Cheesy

I'll b there tomorrow from about ten, our number is 01179 225661
well if they aren't announced tomorrow then I'll eat my hat. Pimp
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« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2006, 13:31:02 »

Yo, i work at the Mac shop and the upgrades are not confirmed. At best the UK will see them late Spring/Early Summer.

Also, I can knock a few quid off a Mac Mini for ya seein as your a student bum Cheesy

I'll b there tomorrow from about ten, our number is 01179 225661
well if they aren't announced tomorrow then I'll eat my hat. Pimp

I'm gonna buy a powerbook to use with Final Scratch but I've been holding back for the new intel based ones.  You'll be a winner either way, you can get a sooped up new mac complete with dual processors or you can get a discounted old one.

According to rumors though, the powerbook and the imac are going to be the ones released with the new processors first - probably during January.  The mac mini is unlikely to be seen before Spring.  More info here :

http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1368
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« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2006, 13:40:37 »

Yo, i work at the Mac shop and the upgrades are not confirmed. At best the UK will see them late Spring/Early Summer.

Also, I can knock a few quid off a Mac Mini for ya seein as your a student bum Cheesy

I'll b there tomorrow from about ten, our number is 01179 225661
well if they aren't announced tomorrow then I'll eat my hat. Pimp

I'm gonna buy a powerbook to use with Final Scratch but I've been holding back for the new intel based ones.  You'll be a winner either way, you can get a sooped up new mac complete with dual processors or you can get a discounted old one.

According to rumors though, the powerbook and the imac are going to be the ones released with the new processors first - probably during January.  The mac mini is unlikely to be seen before Spring.  More info here :

http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1368

that's only one of the rumours though, (edit: and its nearly two months old) it depends what site you read.  Other rumour sites are claiming ibooks and mac mini's will be first.  http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/01/20060105230546.shtml  this article is a round up of all known internet rumours about exactly what is gonna be announced at tomorrow's keynote speech.
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« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2006, 14:23:48 »

Cool - thanks for that.  I'll keep my ear to the ground tomorrow then.
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« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2006, 18:37:18 »

Back onto the subject of audio interfaces.  I'm currently using the Final Scratch 2 scratch amp that has a two channel souncard for decks A and B in traktor dj studio routed to two separate shannels on my mixer.  The new traktor software has four decks so if I purchase one of the devices that have been suggested above will that allow me route decks C and D into another two separet channels in my mixer?

Im a complete reatrd when it comes to stuff like this so any help would be much appreciated.
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« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2006, 22:47:58 »

With a soundcard with 4 channel outputs you'll be able to assign an individual output for each of the 4 decks in Traktor, and then route each output to its own channel on a 4 channel mixer if thats what you want, basically sidestepping the need for the virtual mixer. Not sure how this would work with a scratch amp setup as well, as this would mean you've got 2 soundcards in the signal path. I reckon it would work if you route outputs A and B to the mixer via the scratch amp, then outputs C and D to another 2 channels on the mixer. Alternatively you could get a midi controller like one of the Faderfox designs, and use the virtual mixer in Traktor.
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« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2006, 10:09:47 »

Cool - thanks for that. I'll keep my ear to the ground tomorrow then.
just found out Jobs' speech is on tuesday morning san francisco time so It'll tuesday night here before we get any news.

As for final scratch the m-audio fw 410 only has 4 mono inputs and two of those are digital (optical/coax toslink) but it does have ten mono outputs (hence the name 410  Doh!).
To use four decks with final scratch you'll beed 8 mono inputs as far as I know.  Not that I have ever used or even seen a final scratch setup, in fact I haven't clue what I'm talking about really.
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