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 11 
 on: July 31, 2014, 19:17:59 
Started by #FF0000 - Last post by Snoo
There has never been proof of supernatural beings. Until the point somebody provides peer-reviewed proof and picks up their Nobel prize: Don't teach it to children as fact, and don't make people suffer because of it.

Absolutely agree, which is exactly why science should start trying to rid itself of the stigma and taboo of talking about 'god' and 'consciousness', and start trying to explain them, and in so doing, reclaim them from the realms of philosophy, spirituality and religion (particularly religion).

Science had always proceeded on the basis/aspiration that it will probably, eventually, be able to explain 'a thing' with enough thought/testing/observation/communication, yet most scientifically-minded people run screaming as soon as someone says the 'g' word. There's nothing inherently offensive about 'god' as a concept - what most of us object to is what small-minded people have done with it. We associate it with narrow-mindedness, dogma, indoctrination of children, religious violence, etc.

I propose that one antidote would be for science to do what philosophy has been doing for centuries - appropriate 'god',  start trying to explain it, and make it better. If we drop the taboo we can begin a new, non-faith-based discussion about everything that mind, in all its forms, might be. In this way we broaden and democratise god.
People don't understand the difference between 'theory' & 'Scientific theory'. Which is why you often hear "Evolution is only a theory"....  Roll Eyes

 12 
 on: July 31, 2014, 18:46:13 
Started by #FF0000 - Last post by jonnie
There has never been proof of supernatural beings. Until the point somebody provides peer-reviewed proof and picks up their Nobel prize: Don't teach it to children as fact, and don't make people suffer because of it.

Absolutely agree, which is exactly why science should start trying to rid itself of the stigma and taboo of talking about 'god' and 'consciousness', and start trying to explain them, and in so doing, reclaim them from the realms of philosophy, spirituality and religion (particularly religion).

Science had always proceeded on the basis/aspiration that it will probably, eventually, be able to explain 'a thing' with enough thought/testing/observation/communication, yet most scientifically-minded people run screaming as soon as someone says the 'g' word. There's nothing inherently offensive about 'god' as a concept - what most of us object to is what small-minded people have done with it. We associate it with narrow-mindedness, dogma, indoctrination of children, religious violence, etc.

I propose that one antidote would be for science to do what philosophy has been doing for centuries - appropriate 'god',  start trying to explain it, and make it better. If we drop the taboo we can begin a new, non-faith-based discussion about everything that mind, in all its forms, might be. In this way we broaden and democratise god.

I think the problem some scientists have with God is that they don't see the need to explain it - you have to have an observable phenomenon before you can attempt to explain it.  Religion can often be explained but until there is observable objective evidence in a God, it's hard to engage with it on a scientific level, IMO.  Your example which ignores entropy in order to incorporate a deity isn't really very scientific - I would suggest it is more scientific to remove the unneccesary speculative element in favour of what is generally accepted as a fairly basic theory (which is not the same as a hypothesis, as far as I'm aware, it is a theory in the same way that gravity is a theory).

 13 
 on: July 31, 2014, 17:51:49 
Started by #FF0000 - Last post by whalemonste®
There has never been proof of supernatural beings. Until the point somebody provides peer-reviewed proof and picks up their Nobel prize: Don't teach it to children as fact, and don't make people suffer because of it.

Absolutely agree, which is exactly why science should start trying to rid itself of the stigma and taboo of talking about 'god' and 'consciousness', and start trying to explain them, and in so doing, reclaim them from the realms of philosophy, spirituality and religion (particularly religion).

Science had always proceeded on the basis/aspiration that it will probably, eventually, be able to explain 'a thing' with enough thought/testing/observation/communication, yet most scientifically-minded people run screaming as soon as someone says the 'g' word. There's nothing inherently offensive about 'god' as a concept - what most of us object to is what small-minded people have done with it. We associate it with narrow-mindedness, dogma, indoctrination of children, religious violence, etc.

I propose that one antidote would be for science to do what philosophy has been doing for centuries - appropriate 'god',  start trying to explain it, and make it better. If we drop the taboo we can begin a new, non-faith-based discussion about everything that mind, in all its forms, might be. In this way we broaden and democratise god.

 14 
 on: July 31, 2014, 17:22:25 
Started by #FF0000 - Last post by Snoo
 Grin


 15 
 on: July 31, 2014, 17:21:51 
Started by #FF0000 - Last post by tko
God was last active on December 11th 2008.



 16 
 on: July 31, 2014, 17:04:48 
Started by #FF0000 - Last post by whalemonste®
Lol. Is he still beating the fuck out of that poor lamp post on the M32?

 17 
 on: July 31, 2014, 17:02:17 
Started by # - Last post by #
http://www.teamrobbo.org/info/?page_id=3359

It’s with very great sadness that we have to announce that Robbo passed away this morning – 31 July 2014, due to health complications.

Peace and respect to Robbo’s close family and friends.. the Crew of Team Robbo and WRH and all his many fans and supporters around the world…

Team Robbo – “All the way” – Robbo changed the art world…forever!


 18 
 on: July 31, 2014, 17:00:14 
Started by #FF0000 - Last post by tko
There has never been proof of supernatural beings.

au contraire....


 19 
 on: July 31, 2014, 16:36:05 
Started by simba - Last post by trewhella
my favourite quote in the comments...

 
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So what exactly attracted a good looking 36 year old Ukranian single mother to 60 yr old agency chef Martin from Whitchurch?


 20 
 on: July 31, 2014, 16:23:58 
Started by #FF0000 - Last post by Snoo
There has never been proof of supernatural beings. Until the point somebody provides peer-reviewed proof and picks up their Nobel prize: Don't teach it to children as fact, and don't make people suffer because of it.

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