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1  General / The Forum / Re: God on: July 31, 2014, 18:46:13
There has never been proof of supernatural beings. Until the point somebody provides peer-reviewed proof and picks up their Nobel prize: Don't teach it to children as fact, and don't make people suffer because of it.

Absolutely agree, which is exactly why science should start trying to rid itself of the stigma and taboo of talking about 'god' and 'consciousness', and start trying to explain them, and in so doing, reclaim them from the realms of philosophy, spirituality and religion (particularly religion).

Science had always proceeded on the basis/aspiration that it will probably, eventually, be able to explain 'a thing' with enough thought/testing/observation/communication, yet most scientifically-minded people run screaming as soon as someone says the 'g' word. There's nothing inherently offensive about 'god' as a concept - what most of us object to is what small-minded people have done with it. We associate it with narrow-mindedness, dogma, indoctrination of children, religious violence, etc.

I propose that one antidote would be for science to do what philosophy has been doing for centuries - appropriate 'god',  start trying to explain it, and make it better. If we drop the taboo we can begin a new, non-faith-based discussion about everything that mind, in all its forms, might be. In this way we broaden and democratise god.

I think the problem some scientists have with God is that they don't see the need to explain it - you have to have an observable phenomenon before you can attempt to explain it.  Religion can often be explained but until there is observable objective evidence in a God, it's hard to engage with it on a scientific level, IMO.  Your example which ignores entropy in order to incorporate a deity isn't really very scientific - I would suggest it is more scientific to remove the unneccesary speculative element in favour of what is generally accepted as a fairly basic theory (which is not the same as a hypothesis, as far as I'm aware, it is a theory in the same way that gravity is a theory).
2  General / The Forum / Re: God on: July 12, 2014, 16:15:40
None of that happens and none of it matters if we think of god as the mind of the universe, and the beauty of this concept of god is that it resolves so many problems, for both faith and science. For faith, it gets rid of the problem of human suffering, because the ultimate intelligence, while probably well-intentioned as it goes about its day-to-day business in its own, ultra-complex top level of reality, is no more aware of you or me than we would be of a single one of our own brain cells, or any cell, in fact. We have billions of benevolent bacteria in our guts, beavering away all the time, breaking down nutrients and helping us to function, loving living in shit and smiling about it all the time, saying motivational things like "Have a great day!" (with an American accent, probably) and patting each other on their little bacteria backs with whatever they use for arms down there and occasionally shouting upwards and outwards going "We believe in you!" to whatever god they believe in and hoping that god is pleased with how they're living their lives. Those bacteria are part of the huge complex system that is you, and if for some reason they leave, you tend to feel uncomfortable fairly quickly. But do you ever pay them a second thought? Rarely, if at all, I'd guess, until they leave. The sad situation of those tireless, relentlessly positive little bacteria is that their relationship to you is roughly analogous to our relationship with the universe. Both exist as infinitesimally (relatively) tiny constituent parts of a much, much larger system so big that they are incapable of ever knowing it. The system doesn't even know they're there, and even if it does, it doesn't care about them one iota because it has much bigger things going on.

Anyway, that was long. Sorry.

One final thought: an emergent god is an elegant and comforting idea, because if it's true then it means that, as so many people of faith like to say, god is everywhere, and in all of us, and we are all god. Smiley

Interesting theory but it does appear to violate the laws of entropy.  An ordered system such as a consciousness would require an external power source, so if God was everywhere, it would require energy from outside of the universe.

I would also disagree that this emergent system represents any meaningful definition of God, other than a superior intelligence we cannot understand.  Given that it would not understand us or care about us, I'm not sure that even considering it adds anything to my life.  I do find magic in the universe, but it is of the scientific variety rather than the spiritual.
3  General / The Forum / Re: Where did people end up after carnival? on: July 09, 2014, 18:17:18
Wonder if it will run next year after the amount of stabbings this year.
Yeah they were a little on the low side.

Evening Pest on a witchunt as usual.  Sad
http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/Calls-increase-St-Paul-s-Carnival-banned/story-21342345-detail/story.html

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Petehall1  |  July 09 2014, 7:15AM   

I saw a cop dancing with a group of Black ladies at the festival Saturday,are the told to do this to be racially correct? Do they dance with the public on a Saturday night at Bristol Dockside ?I think not....

Genius
4  General / The Forum / Re: This is a good quiz/web app to see which parties align to your views. on: May 23, 2014, 19:46:51
So the results are in.
http://www.bristol.gov.uk/LocalElectionViewer?XSL=main&ElectionId=68
I'm quite surprised Avonmouth went Tory. More so than I'm surprised at Hengrove going UKIP. Though their rise is quite worrying. My ward was regained by Labour, but UKIP came in 2nd.  Undecided
Greens gaining control of Redland, Bishopston & Southville is actually quite amusing I find as those areas are pretty stereo-typical middleclass mungbean these days.
UKIP = Spud Murphy.
People just voted for the man not the party.
Michael Frost is Hengrove UKIP.

Do you know what I can't find the page I read that had Spud as the ukip rep. (he went for mayor, his PR must be strong...)
I saw they had won a seat and checked to see who it was and could have sworn it said Spud.

Serves me right for getting my info from an FB wall post.



I think he is a ukip rep. He is quite a character. Old Avonmouth boy with a history they respect around there (Seafairer). I think he was a Tory councillor. I think he went for Mayor on the basis that he too wears a promonent peice of clothing (funny hat). Which seems to be what we look for in a Mayor.
Spud Murphy is UKIP rep for Avonmouth and came 3rd.  Quite a close race that - only 16 votes between Tory and Labour.

http://www.bristol.gov.uk/LocalElectionViewer?XSL=main&ShowElectionWard=true&ElectionId=68&WardId=9
5  General / The Forum / Re: Clarkson on: May 03, 2014, 19:54:42
It's a typical missing the point scandal.  Jeremy Clarkson is a racist because he makes cheap jokes about people's race not because he may or may not have said nigger. 
6  General / The Forum / Re: Hijack Celebrity death Pool 2013 on: April 07, 2014, 18:52:40
No-one chose Peaches?  That was a wildcard
7  General / The Forum / Re: tonight BBC4 9pm on: March 07, 2014, 19:32:49
Excellent.  Part of the Storyville series, so will be in iPlayer as well.

On a related note - this is an awesome little film, especially for anyone from Sheffield and remembers Kelham Island museum.  Anyone who can make an animated gif of the kid flicking the v's at the camera will get a special prize*

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03slty8/Storyville_20132014_The_Big_Melt_How_Steel_Made_Us_Hard/

*special prize may be nil value.  T&Cs apply
8  General / The Forum / Re: Well bugger me. on: March 04, 2014, 19:19:47
Today I am 12 in Hijack years

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9  General / The Forum / Re: Fraz on: March 04, 2014, 19:14:48
Dutty Benj
10  General / The Forum / Re: How to make money in USA (Swedish style) on: February 21, 2014, 09:09:54
This song has shifted 400000 units in UK alone!
That makes me a sad panda.
11  General / The Forum / Re: mixcloud from me on: February 09, 2014, 20:49:17
Sick

Still have a couple of sets on my mp3 player from the last time you posted a mix.  When are you next playing in Bristol?
12  General / The Forum / Re: Hijack, I turn to thee in desperation... on: January 27, 2014, 19:38:23
the sad thing is I don't miss the UK at all.  Undecided

permanent sunshine will do that.



Nah, it's the general demeanor of your average citizen. Perhaps I've seen a darker side, having had to experience the immigration system, but the UK seems MEAN. Even friends and family posting racist, homophobic and xenophobic propaganda on facebook is getting me down.

I wish I could disagree with you.  The people I know are not generally cunts, but I'm always surprised how inconsiderate and selfish they can be on an instinctual level in just small ways.  I hope I don't appear the same to them.
I also look at the average level of discourse regarding benefits, the unemployed, immigration and I dispair.

[Canada's] government's politics is a bit iffy.
I was going to post the same about Kuwait and Australia, but I can't even begin to defend the UK Government
13  General / The Forum / Re: Comic Book Appreciation Thread on: January 27, 2014, 19:27:33
Viz
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14  General / The Forum / Re: celebrity big brother on: January 27, 2014, 09:05:55

Jim Davidson #fucking #cunt
Fixed that for you.
15  General / The Forum / Re: Hijack, I turn to thee in desperation... on: January 25, 2014, 21:13:08
Where have you moved to?  Canada or Dubai?
16  General / The Forum / Re: Arc Bar on: January 18, 2014, 10:44:38
Any news on the terrible limiter?  I only went a couple of times and most DJs turned up the gains and the limiter fucked the sound.  That made it an awful venue, IMO.
17  General / The Forum / Re: Vapers (E-cig users) on: January 15, 2014, 08:27:52
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/Cv3sAFe1FCM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/Cv3sAFe1FCM</a>

From an non-smokers perspective, I find it very interesting.  We essentially have a new, less dangerous, possibly harmless addictive drug which is derived from an existing legal one.  If this came along without tobacco, it would have been banned.  Given that drug legislation is morality not evidence based, I'm interested to see how this pans out.
18  General / The Forum / Re: Stephen Williams MP to do AMA on /r/bristol Monday at 1930 on: January 13, 2014, 21:17:48
Bit of a damp squib so far - he only answered 4 questions and no-one had a go at him for tuition fees.

Looks like he's signed off as well.
19  General / The Forum / Re: Conscription / UK National Service on: August 29, 2013, 18:30:00
Show a little respect. People are so DUMB.

I know.  It's like when someone thinks a private members bill has any chance of becoming law!  Bad Teeth
20  General / The Forum / Re: Conscription / UK National Service on: August 29, 2013, 18:28:08
I spoke this morning with Colin who is in his early seventies and did National service...he answered a lot of questions raised here and i'll try and keep it short
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i hope this has been a help

It has.  Very interesting.

It has softened my attitude, but being anecdotal, is not going to utterly change my opinion.

The only caveat I would add to the whole thing is that the Government are trying to cut costs by using TA troops.  If we were to legislate for National Service, I would want massive guarantees that cutting the Army budget does not constitute an emergency.  I suspect that this would not be enough in any case.
21  General / The Forum / Re: I want to get an Xbox - advice please? on: August 29, 2013, 08:22:14
Can i politely say..grow up
You can't politely say it, because it's an impolite thing to say.
22  General / The Forum / Re: Chemical Records - Gone into adminstration on: August 28, 2013, 22:38:41
Chemical records website now shows the company as "Music & Lifestyle Limited", which according to Companies House was incorporated in July this year.

Chemical (UK) now shows an address the same as RSM Tenon Recovery Services.

Nice little asset switch there.
23  General / The Forum / Re: Miley Cyrus @ VMAs 2013 on: August 27, 2013, 20:01:47
This you Jonnie?



Nah.  I've got a beard.
24  General / The Forum / Re: Miley Cyrus @ VMAs 2013 on: August 26, 2013, 20:23:44


From what I saw, it just seemed a desperate & transparent marketing ploy.  I'm sure if I were 12, I'd fall for it.
25  General / The Forum / Re: Conscription / UK National Service on: August 22, 2013, 18:55:16
With all the people quoting figures of correlation of mental health and people in the army, would it not be better to look towards stats from places such as Switzerland where conscription already exists?

Are Switzerland's mental health figures for able bodied male citizens that different from the UK or another comparable country that does not have conscription?

We all know the army can fuck people up but this would not be the army. It would be training for period of time.

Switzerland has a lower rate of suicide than the UK but also has a lot more psychiatrists per person.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate
http://www.euro.who.int/en/what-we-do/health-topics/noncommunicable-diseases/mental-health/data-and-statistics
Not sure what that means.  Probably that they take mental health much more seriously than the UK, which is not a surprise.

From a cultural point of view, the country seems packed with cunts, from Glencore to UBS not to mention shit-tons of tax exiles.  I certainly would not like to be more like them.
26  General / The Forum / Re: Crop Circle Song on: August 22, 2013, 08:11:51
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/Cj25Pv-h-r0?version=3&amp;amp;hl=en_US" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/Cj25Pv-h-r0?version=3&amp;amp;hl=en_US</a>
I always thought that my impression of Russell Brand being a fuckwit was based on jealousy, but it turns out I was right.
27  General / The Forum / Re: Cat Burglar on: August 19, 2013, 20:43:21
Any chance you could get this in the background?

Dutty Benj

or this?
28  General / The Forum / Re: Conscription / UK National Service on: August 19, 2013, 19:22:58
Given that the Army imposes it's model of "respect for authority" on people using tactics which are broadly speaking based on shouting and threats, all I can really see is this producing a whole new generation of bullies and borderline sociopaths.  If anything, we need the opposite - we want people in positions of authority and power to have earned respect not demand it.  All National Service could do is instill undeserved respect for authority and contempt for the weak.

Well said

I disagree

Can I ask what your evidence is?  If the stats are there, then I'd love to know - all that I can find online is opinion.

I'm basing my opinion on the statistical differences between ex Army and civilians in terms of mental health issues/prison records etc.  All of which suggests that being in that environment (highly aggressive and confrontational) does not help you get on with people.  When you bear in mind the old problems at bases like Deepcut (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Royal_Barracks,_Deepcut#Trainee_deaths_at_Deepcut), it seems like a perfect recipe for making our society go even further in the wrong direction.  Let's be honest, we have a fairly sick society at the moment, turning on the defenseless and powerless, making up statistics or "examples" about the undeserving poor when all the evidence suggests that a vast majority of people are trying their hardest.

I also don't believe that the 50s and early 60s were a beacon of progressive values and to wish to turn the clock back to those times is misguided at best.
29  General / The Forum / Re: Conscription / UK National Service on: August 18, 2013, 14:32:53
Given that the Army imposes it's model of "respect for authority" on people using tactics which are broadly speaking based on shouting and threats, all I can really see is this producing a whole new generation of bullies and borderline sociopaths.  If anything, we need the opposite - we want people in positions of authority and power to have earned respect not demand it.  All National Service could do is instill undeserved respect for authority and contempt for the weak.
30  General / The Forum / Re: BRISTOL IN:MOTION 2013 - Lineups Announced! on: August 09, 2013, 07:01:56
Is the Alex Jones on your list the nut-job infowars fraud?  Or has someone used it as a DJ name?
31  General / The Forum / Re: Cameron's web filter // somebody think of the children [merged] on: July 26, 2013, 07:58:51
So it turns out Claire Perry MP, who advised Cameron on this firewall, actually knows sweet f*ck all about the internet, and does not know the difference between a screenshot and a link... And she also had her website hacked and smattered in porn images.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/jul/24/guido-fawkes-threatens-sue-mp-hacking

 Doh!
Claire Perry should lose any influence over this bill.  The morals of online pornography are up for debate but you cannot legislate for something you do not understand.
32  General / The Forum / Re: Interesting jobs on: July 22, 2013, 18:25:01
completing tasks at breakneck speed allows ones right brain to activate - this is one of the principles of agile development, code up a little prototype then improve it

Does this actually work?  It sounds like a shortcut to fundamental bugs.
33  General / The Forum / Re: OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!!! on: July 22, 2013, 18:22:02


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Laughing
I once explained the realities of childbirth to an annoying Christian girl who had all these beautiful ideas. I told her of the blood, the shitting, the tearing of flesh. She was horrified. I think she generally expected childbirth to be like the scene in snow white where she is cleaning the house and all the cute animals are helping her.  Smashed
Just remind her that it's womenkind's punishment for the sins of Eve.  Or something


Winning all the sport, heatwave, and now this - it's all down hill from here.

How is it going down in the colonies?

Good thanks mate!

Cricket fans are in mourning, the government is dumping asylum seekers in Papua New Guinea and the Yanks are dropping bombs on the Great Barrier Reef.

On the plus side, the prawns are fucking huge Cheesy

Quality of life.  Massive prawns.

(Can't the aussies check their asylum seeker's cricketing quality first?  We could do with a bit more resistance - I've got tickets for the fourth day of Old Trafford and it's not looking promising.)
34  General / The Forum / Re: Cameron's web filter // somebody think of the children [merged] on: July 22, 2013, 18:17:39
The big question is - when is the right time to turn a child's pornpipe on?  18?  16?  When you start finding them whacking off over swimwear catalogues?

I also predict a new generation of UK superhackers who perfected their skills by hacking for grot.  Superb one hand coders.
35  General / The Forum / Re: The ashes thread 2013 on: July 19, 2013, 18:03:18
Sounds like we're in for a decent weekend of cricket - let's hope KP doesn't just hole out this evening.
Edit:  I'M SO ANGRY! A day of grinding with Bell beckons. 

For the benefit of our Scottish and Northern Irish Brits, I would suggest that TMS is English.  And a bit Welsh when we get another decent seamer  Bad Teeth
36  General / The Forum / Re: The ashes thread 2013 on: July 19, 2013, 07:11:58
Bloody awful start, slight recover then more epic fail. Hope we hang on tomorrow for a few more hours. Reckon 350 would be ok.
Anyone got any thoughts on the Finn/Bresnan switch?


Probably a good idea to switch Finn out - he's low on confidence and the Aussie batsmen clearly targeted him.  The current England setup doesn't allow for a spare bowler being carried, so I don't think Cook had much choice.

I'm more concerned that our top 6 (bar Bell) are all going through bad patches.  I want to see Cook and Root grind out a decent innings, not just 20 or 30 runs.
37  General / The Forum / Re: St Paul's Carnival 2013 review thread on: July 18, 2013, 19:33:01
If you're gonna do that, make sure you'd recognise the symptoms of this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin_syndrome

as it increases the risk.
Quote from: That Website
Moderate intoxication includes additional abnormalities such as hyperactive bowel sounds
: Huh
38  General / The Forum / Re: The ashes thread 2013 on: July 14, 2013, 14:14:53
20 runs vs 1 wicket.

Fantastic match.
39  General / The Forum / Re: The ashes thread 2013 on: July 13, 2013, 18:03:31
164 for 6, Ashton Agar to the crease.  Game on.
40  General / The Forum / Re: St Paul's Carnival 2013 review thread on: July 08, 2013, 18:25:45
My sister came down for the weekend and we rinsed it.

Met up with a load of mates and heard some nice tunes.

I didn't see any moodiness and the only police tape I saw all night was on the way back home when Redclliffe Hill was shut off (no idea why).

I didn't see any buckets for collection but they were pushing the text number hard, so I hope they got enough cash.

41  General / The Forum / Re: Britney Spears, aged 31 years old on: July 01, 2013, 19:13:44

I'm surprised you even think of supporting britney. She sexualised school kids no?

I agree with what you say. But she's also an example of someone being taken example of from a young age by the industry and even her parents to make money. And not being taken care of (protected properly).

and I agree with you also.

Early morning brain vomit. Some times I shouldn't press 'post'

Same here. I meant she's 'an example of someone being taken advantage of'. Not an example of an example.  Smashed  Laugh

More importantly - she has aged and had a bad photo taken of her and should be vilified.  The bitch.
42  General / The Forum / Re: Daft Punk - Random access memories on: July 01, 2013, 19:03:28
Like the legend of the phoenix?

All ends with new beginnings ?

We've come to far to give up who we are?

Lets raise the bar of who we are?

all wrapped neatly into a 70's package no less.

Im saying absolutely fuck all on this one  Two Thumbs



Their early lyrics were:

"Around The World"


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I prefer these as they aren't sung by a smirking twat to a backing that sounds like an cast-off from a sub-par disco tribute band.
43  General / The Forum / Re: Daft Punk - Random access memories on: July 01, 2013, 07:53:50
Am I the only person who thinks that Daft Punk's music is just boring rehashes of older music?  Get Lucky was a smirking, vapid, pointless piece of plastic pop masquerading as innovative.

This track is just terrible.
44  General / The Forum / Re: Pretty neat. on: June 21, 2013, 08:02:24
It's alright.  The main problems seems to be that it's made by wankers for other wankers.
45  General / The Forum / Re: Getting engaged on: May 22, 2013, 18:34:09
Ask your missus if she would want you to get her father's permission to ask for her hand in marriage.  Sorted.
46  General / The Forum / Re: Boston Marathon Explosions on: April 18, 2013, 07:21:59

That doesn't mean anonymous idiots on a message board speculating on a selection of photos is in any way useful.  They're not helping.
47  General / The Forum / Re: Broadmead is for poorz on: April 15, 2013, 20:43:29
Last year, half of the "German" market seemed to be local traders setting up shop in a wooden hut.  Most of it looked pretty terrible.
48  General / The Forum / Re: Why 'gay' needs to stop being used as a derogatory term... on: April 12, 2013, 22:34:26
But it's important to recognise that no-one (at least, I think, no-one in this thread) is saying that "all white middle class males always have it easy".  I think that's a misunderstanding that comes out of the defensiveness I described above.

No-one is explicity saying it, but it is easy to infer from the "check you privilege" language that people are saying that.  People using the word "gay" to say something is crap do not mean to say gay people are crap but it is heavily implied.  I find it interesting that this is a debate about language in which emotive language is taken in the wrong way.
49  General / The Forum / Re: Why 'gay' needs to stop being used as a derogatory term... on: April 12, 2013, 21:39:56
This privilege concept is a strange one... the first time you encounter it, there's a natural reaction to fight it.  You want to say "just because I'm not a gay black woman, it doesn't mean that I don't have things tough, that I haven't been treated unfairly and overlooked in certain situations, that I'm not in social group x which also has these problems".  It feels like an affront to who you are, and like some sort of discrimination... in fact, it is discrimination, in that it discriminates between people and points out differences.  But it's still a useful thing to understand.  There should be equal rights, but people are not equal... people are different, and if we fail to recognise that then we're blind to certain aspects of society.

The problem is that language isn't something you always think about, it's something you feel first.  Telling someone to "check their privilege" just gets them defensive and doesn't actually help.  If you want people to engage, explain patiently.  To use emotive language is just a waste.

It should be stressed that white middle class male is the "easiest setting" on average but generalising it to imply that all white middle class males always have it easy is insulting.  I do understand the concept of privilege and fully agree I have had it relatively easy in some respects, but I would politely request that people don't judge me on my background and instead judge me on myself.
50  General / The Forum / Re: Broadmead is for poorz on: April 12, 2013, 07:29:34
I try and buy most things on the high street to try and help it. Especially things from my local independent retailer - such as my local running or bike shop. Paying the extra is worth it from the advice you can get from these people.
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I like shops and I'd prefer a living city full of shops rather than an empty one where I have to buy everything online.
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